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VICS94HB Samba Member
Joined: May 13, 2015 Posts: 89 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2015 8:57 am Post subject: new front clip |
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| so I wanna change the front clip on my 67 sunroof beetle. it looks like bacon along where the fenders bolt up to the point that they drilled holes and put shiny bolts and nuts all the way through to hold it together. I know that jbugs and a lot of the local vw shops I have gone to sell the front clip for $150 and they charge me about 400 to 500 dollars in labor to install that new front clip. I want advice on if I should tackle it my self or should I leave it to the pros. I have a friend who says if I remove the front fenders and gas tank and get it ready for him he would do it for a lot cheaper but has never done a beetle front clip but has done other car and truck front clips. what do you guy think I should do. im in los angeles and if you guys have a shop that you guys personally recommend let me know please. |
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vwnut1 Samba Member

Joined: May 16, 2012 Posts: 495 Location: So Cal
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2015 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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That's a measure 3x and cut once type of job. I will inform you that the Brazilian clip is made of metal that is inferior to the original German sheet metal. It can be done by the average do-it-yourselfer with a Sawzall, MIG welder and grinder. _________________ 1957 VW Oval Resto Mod |
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grandpa pete Samba Member

Joined: July 06, 2008 Posts: 6426 Location: St. Petersburg, FL
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2015 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Buy a used clip from samba classifieds and get the right guage metal with all the correct bends
Read through some build threads there are several that show you how to do this yourself
I especially like the guy who rough cut his pieces then bolted everything together WITH the fenders ON ......then he made his final cut through both layers .
Spend the money on a used mig welder ; it,s not rocket science . _________________ 63 two fold rag
66 sedan delivery Type 6
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=569619&highlight=sedan+delivery |
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rockerarm Samba Member
Joined: December 16, 2009 Posts: 3547 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2015 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Vic. Can I call you Vic? WELCOME.
Good advice from Pete on the poor quality of parts out there. To be completely honest with you, I don't see much for sale at jbugs that is of much interest to me. Trying to be somewhat polite. I am also in LA, and think I know most places out there to source parts. Much may depend on what you, as the owner, wants as the end result. This may be as far as originality, get it running mentality, flip it, etc. A 67 is kinda unique with its body parts, and being a sunroof model is nice.
Body work wise, think of this and do the research. Car Craft magazine, which is in LA, had their blue, 1967 American Motors Project car body work and paint done at L.A. Trade Tech, by the students there. Google this and look at the work! It may suit your needs/budget.
I believe there are a few places around SoCal where you may be able to pick up the clip you need.
Let me know here or PM me. I hope this helps, Bill. |
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bipolaroller Samba Member

Joined: November 05, 2006 Posts: 66 Location: the hills o portland
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:48 pm Post subject: Manufacturers..? |
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Hi guys, I'll bump this post rather than starting a new one since its close to what I wana know...I get that new clips fit wierd,thinner metal and all that.but Is there more that one manufacturer and if so, which one is better..?who's stamp is closest _________________ "im triing to finish,but forgot what i have done"
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vwnut1 Samba Member

Joined: May 16, 2012 Posts: 495 Location: So Cal
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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Its an extremely small number of companies in the world who are stamping out repop VW Beetle sheet metal. To recoup the huge investment involved with stamping dies and machinery on fairly low demand VW sheet metal would take YEARS to amortize. I believe all of the front clips that you see being sold by various air cooled VW retailers are made by the exact same manufacturer. I was informed that all of the fenders and front hood repops come from one manufacturer in Italy and the front clips are all Brazilian made by one company. _________________ 1957 VW Oval Resto Mod
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grandpa pete Samba Member

Joined: July 06, 2008 Posts: 6426 Location: St. Petersburg, FL
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Be careful about buying a repop clip that fits MANY years . You end up with extra holes and bends that aren't in your year original metal .
I will tell you what I told the original thread poster ; get a used clip of the correct year . _________________ 63 two fold rag
66 sedan delivery Type 6
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=569619&highlight=sedan+delivery |
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bipolaroller Samba Member

Joined: November 05, 2006 Posts: 66 Location: the hills o portland
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks guys...I know og is best but I'm in a wet climate and good clips are hard to come bye...the ones I do find are hours and tons of gas away..I know there's alot of work to make the new clips rite like the washer bottle cut out...I just figured modifying a clip would be easier than building a clip from panels mixing in my 58 clip parts to get as close to original without buying original.ofcourse I'm allways looking for a clip but I'm having no luck in my area and I'm ready to move forward..I'm not looking for concourse on this build..just a nice solid runner.. so if the sheetmetal isn't an exact stamp,curves,shape, replica as the original 58 metal I'm ok with it....thanks again _________________ "im triing to finish,but forgot what i have done"
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far rider  Samba Member

Joined: August 30, 2005 Posts: 1013 Location: Rutland, VT
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 6:19 am Post subject: |
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I recently did a front clip. My 2cents: source an original clip. Have one shipped if none in your area. I would recommend dutchboymike here on the samba. But whatever route you choose I would also recommend, as others have stated, measuring multiple times. Also fitting fenders and hood before completely welding in. It's a bit tricky but take your time and it'll come out fine. _________________ 67 zenith blue sunroof
Contentment; when what you have is what you want. |
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rockerarm Samba Member
Joined: December 16, 2009 Posts: 3547 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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| X2 on dutchboymike. I bought a 76ish std bug front end clip for my DD 74, for a dad/son project. Clip still sitting in storage, sigh! E-mail Mike. He always sources stuff, kinda like the tale "pulling a rabbit outa the hat trick". |
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bipolaroller Samba Member

Joined: November 05, 2006 Posts: 66 Location: the hills o portland
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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When it rains it pours...I just found a 65 she'll never hit with no rust...I know they split yrs up like 58 to 64, 65-67 and so on..I know there's window differences in the 65...but shouldn't a 63 and a 65 front clip be basically the same...fenders bolt, hood lays..thanks for the help guys..I haven't built a bug in awhile and I'm having to re-familiarize myself with some stuff _________________ "im triing to finish,but forgot what i have done"
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Gsuffa Samba Member

Joined: July 09, 2019 Posts: 54 Location: Missouri
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2025 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: new front clip |
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That sounds correct. _________________ BillW in St Louis
1968 Convertible
1972 Super Beetle
1973 Roadster project
BMWs |
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Bub Samba Member

Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 1333 Location: Central Washington
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2025 9:41 am Post subject: |
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| When it rains it pours...I just found a 65 she'll never hit with no rust...I know they split yrs up like 58 to 64, 65-67 and so on..I know there's window differences in the 65...but shouldn't a 63 and a 65 front clip be basically the same...fenders bolt, hood lays..thanks for the help guys..I haven't built a bug in awhile and I'm having to re-familiarize myself with some stuff |
very minor differences between 61-67, but there are several. None of them prevent you from swapping clips between those years, they're all the same shape and dimensions and teh details are small and superficial most people wouldn't even notice.
If you're doing a FULL RESTO spend the $ on green parts from the UK, if not get a clean cut from a car that wasn't hit.
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pondoras box Samba Member

Joined: March 22, 2004 Posts: 1900 Location: Warren, PA
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2025 7:10 am Post subject: Re: new front clip |
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Head up the highway to Avery’s and get a front clip. Original steel is always better than aftermarket. Avery’s prices are very fair. On a front clip you are fortunate enough to have several places to bolt it together to get your cuts and alignment right before welding. Both fenders and the body to beam mounts. You could also make a jig using the gas tank mounting bolt holes for alignment. _________________ Looking for anything from Hal Casey Motors out of Hamburg New York, from license plate surrounds to matchbooks.
1961 23 Window (Bobo)
1965 11 Window (Zelda). https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=563183
1965 13 Window (Lucas)
1957 Oval ragtop
1960 hardtop
1964 hardtop
1965 hardtop (Arschloch)
1973 standard bug (Dirty Gertie)
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=804912
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