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sixtyonecrew
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 Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2025 8:53 am Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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I ended up using the original 3rd door that was on the Crewcab. The additional door that was included in the sale was in rougher condition compared to the one originally on the Binz.
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pyrOman
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2025 1:49 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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As member #69 of the Hackasaurus Rex union, local 13, I'd fix that other door, graft it unto the other side and BAM!, 4 door Binzie! 
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sixtyonecrew
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| Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2025 1:06 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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| pyrOman wrote: |
| As member #69 of the Hackasaurus Rex union, local 13, I'd fix that other door, graft it unto the other side and BAM!, 4 door Binzie! |
That would be the first 4 door Binz I have ever heard of! |
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70bus 
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| Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2025 3:47 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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After that put a cyclops light on top!
Hey, it's your bus. :)
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Stocknazi
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| Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2025 7:15 am Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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| sixtyonecrew wrote: |
I ended up using the original 3rd door that was on the Crewcab. The additional door that was included in the sale was in rougher condition compared to the one originally on the Binz.
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The crew cab doors are very interesting. Did Binz cut and widen the original double cab door?
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70bus
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| Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2025 11:34 am Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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Do we know if Binz adapted a similar door from another vehicle, or were these bespoke? I'd guess the latter.
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Malokin Martin
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| Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2025 12:27 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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| Binz were before double cabs |
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pondoras box
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| Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2025 5:02 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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According to a book I have from years ago, the Binz started as a single cab and was coach built from the B pillar to the rear cab wall. The original bed and side gates were shortened. The drivers side lower body work was retained and if I remember correctly still has a seam where the bed floor would have been. That’s why a four door wouldn’t look right, even as a fantasy bus. The rear of the cab was entirely coachbuilt to include the third door.
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sixtyonecrew
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2025 12:56 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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| pondoras box wrote: |
| According to a book I have from years ago, the Binz started as a single cab and was coach built from the B pillar to the rear cab wall. The original bed and side gates were shortened. The drivers side lower body work was retained and if I remember correctly still has a seam where the bed floor would have been. That’s why a four door wouldn’t look right, even as a fantasy bus. The rear of the cab was entirely coachbuilt to include the third door. |
This is an interesting Metal panel that Binz must have installed on the far wall of the back area that covers the top half of the wall panel for the single cab to double cab modification. The original Dove Blue paint color is behind the panel. All of the other panels that cover the walls are wall board (1/8th inch thick) - not metal like this one panel.
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70bus
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2025 1:13 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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So was it just Sweden that used wood inside the 3rd door panels or do yours have some in them as well?
Wrapping metal around wood frames was common earlier in century, but I haven't read all of the Binz pages yet to see if they just used brakes and stampers by the 50s.
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sixtyonecrew
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2025 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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| 70bus wrote: |
So was it just Sweden that used wood inside the 3rd door panels or do yours have some in them as well?
Wrapping metal around wood frames was common earlier in century, but I haven't read all of the Binz pages yet to see if they just used brakes and stampers by the 50s. |
I didn’t find any wood inside my 3rd door panel. Just this interesting metal half panel that is unique to the Binz!
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sixtyonecrew
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| Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2025 10:15 am Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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The Binz is starting to take shape!
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sixtyonecrew
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| Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2025 10:36 am Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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sixtyonecrew
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| Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2025 12:50 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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| Let's vote! Should I keep the roof original patina with the original dove blue or sand it down and paint it the wanabe dove blue L31 of today to match the rest of the Binz? |
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ronjonlasvegas
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| Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2025 12:57 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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The truck looks great, such a big difference from when I saw it in person three months ago at the Treffen show in CA.
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70bus
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| Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2025 12:58 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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third choice - paint the rest of bus to match top? Someday, maybe. For now, go drive it!
My personal view is that if you have original paint and aren't doing a total resto, keep the original as much as you can. My local shop can't stand that I won't repaint the whole truck to match the new metal/paint, so everyone has different opinions.
Paint's only original once, so be sure whatever you do it's well-thought. And whatever you do is ok - it's your truck!
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sixtyonecrew
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| Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2025 1:20 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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| ronjonlasvegas wrote: |
The truck looks great, such a big difference from when I saw it in person three months ago at the Treffen show in CA. |
Thank you Sir! I send it to my mechanic's shop on Wednesday to get the running gear installed! |
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DanM
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| Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2025 7:04 am Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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| my vote: paint match the best spot of the roof and paint the whole truck. |
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vwuberalles
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| Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2025 8:24 am Post subject: Re: 1958 VW Double Cab Binz #73 |
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If removing the gray to get back to the original paint on the rest of the truck isn't an option I'd just paint the whole thing in the correct original color. Just having a patina'd roof looks like you ran out of money for your paint budget.
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