Gauges

will-g · Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:42 pm Post subject: Gauges

Gauges
Part 1: OEM Accessory Gauges
VDO
• Trip Speedometers – If anyone has a year specific breakdown on type1, type2, type3 & Ghias please let me know so that I may update this area.
• Tachometers - If anyone has a year specific breakdown on type1, type2, type3 & Ghias please let me know so that I may update this area.
1. Type 3 Tachometer
2. Type 34 Tachometer
3. Ghia Tachometer
• Fuel Gauges
1. 1949-1952 Fuel Gauge
2. 1958-1961 Fuel Gauge
3. 1958 & 1960 Fuel Gauges
• Amps Gauge
Note – If anyone has any additional VDO Gauges that should be added to this area, let me know and I will update it.
Dehne
• Fuel Gauges
1. Fuel Gauge
2. 58+ Fuel Gauge

Part 2: Aftermarket Gauges
Motometer
(Note - Anyone who has Specific information concerning what gauges were available and when please let me know so that it may be added to this section….this is where Glenn & Bob Chime in Wink

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•Rallye Package containing (early)
1.fuel gauge
2.Clock
3.oil Temperature guage
•Rallye Package containing
1.fuel gauge
2.amp meter
3.oil pressure guage.
•Individual Gauges
1.Outside Air Temperature
2.Oil Temp
3.Oil Pressure
4.Fuel
5.Amps
6.3in1 Fuel, Oil-Temp, Amps
7. Co-Pilot
Koch
1. Oil Temperature
EMPI
•Early (1958) EMPI Gauges
1. Electric Tach
2. Oil Temp
3. Cylinder Head Temp
4. Fuel Gauge
5. Dash Clock
7. Amps
(picture of Some Early Gauges below)

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•Generation 1 – Mechanical gauge, Black EMPI globe, white needle, “Autotemp Sweden” along bottom.
1.Tachometer
2.Amps
3.Oil Pressure
4.Oil Temperature
•Generation 2 – Mechanical gauge, White EMPI globe, White needle “Autotemp Sweden” along bottom. Note – the second generation tachometer has an orange needle with white globe, and is mechanical
1.Tachometer
2.Amps
3.Oil Pressure
4.Oil Temperature
(picture of generation 2 below)

•Generation 3 – Electric gauge, Black EMPI globe, Orange needle. Note – Requires sender to work.
1.Tachometer
2.Oil Pressure
3.Oil Temperature
4.Ampere
(picture of generation 3 below)

Note – There is an EMPI Cylinder Head Gauge; however I am unsure which generation it is from.
Auto Haus
•Note - The only Auto Haus gauge I have seen for sale is the cyl. Head Temp.
1.Cyl. Head Temp.
Speedwell
•Note – I know very little about the speedwell Gauges. The ones listed are what I have seen show up in the forums. If anyone has further information on them please post it.
1.Amps
2.Oil Pressure
3.Oil Temperature
4.Tachometer
(picture below)

Part 2A: Boost Gauges
Judson
•White Faced (extremely early)
•Black Faced
Shorrock
Rajay

Part 3: Technical Information
If anyone has additional information that should be added to area please let me know and I will add it, thanks
Where do I purchase Vintage Gauges?
Where do I purchase Vintage Gauges? Part2
Early Ghia Gas Gauge restoration
Speedometer restoration
Speedwell Gauge restoration
Recommended Gauge restoration Shops
EMPI & Speedwell Gauge Restoration
Tachometer Install

Note: Pictures Have been taken off of other posts on this site, if any of these pictures belong to you and you want them removed, let me know and i will do so right away
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Lind · Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:35 pm Post subject:

I have been doing a bunch of research on the various gauges that were available. I have also been avidly collecting select gauges. this is a huge topic. I have a few pieces of period gauge sales literature and magazine ads. I will scan and post that stuff eventually. I should mention that VDO made a shitload of gauges for VWs. there are literally hundreds of different styles and variations of VDO gauges for air cooled VWS.

here are some of my favorite gauges:
VDO karmann ghia tachometer
Koch oil temp
Motest inside/outside ambient temperature gauge
Gewe klinometer (accelleration gauge)

Halda speedpilot (rally time/speed equipment)
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will-g · Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:41 pm Post subject:

Lind-
When you get time, please post the scans of Gauge information, also pictures of those gauges you listed as some of your favorites would be great.

I was going back through the many pages of the accessories forum and noticed that there are between 4 -10 threads about gauges per page, so i thought i would try and bring as much information as possible together.
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oval56 · Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:47 am Post subject:

vdo electric cock: (55 and up)

vdo 52mm gauges set stamped 57,58,56

vdo tach upm range 6000 (61)

vdo amp gauge (56)

vdo gasgauge 56

some vdo stuff (53-62)

vdo tach 8000upm

vdo tach grey face 61

different vdo oiltemgauges

NOS dehne fuel gauge 53 and up

the rest stuff is on my website Very Happy

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1957 Oval Ragtop 1584ccm singel port modified
1950 Hebmüller, 1584ccm okrasa modified

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will-g · Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:49 am Post subject:

oval56-
Very nice collection of VDO Gauges Cool

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will-g · Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:52 am Post subject:

Ok,
It seems that there is an earlier run of EMPI gauges than the 1st generation black globes. the gauges i am refering to have a light colored inner ring and a black outer ring on the face of the gauge, as seen in the 1958 and 1963 EMPI catalogs. There are also several different early tachs. does anyone actually own any of these "early" gauges? I would like to post up some pictures in the EMPI area of this Thread if possible.
*ADDED TOO FIRST POST*
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Thornton · Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:49 am Post subject:

NOS early EMPI Head Temp gauge in Fahrenheit

Early EMPI head Temp Gauge in Celsius

Early EMPI Ammeter gauge

Speedwell vacuum gauge

Empi Vacuum gauge

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will-g · Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:16 pm Post subject:

Thornton-
Where does that Empi Vacuum Gauge and Cylinder Head Temperature Guage fit into the generations? i imagine they are "1st Generation" or "early" guages....
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Thornton · Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:30 pm Post subject:

Lids · Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:25 pm Post subject:

cylinder head gauge in fahrenheit was sold for corvairs from 1962 onwards and came with a mounting panel. $29.95 product number 271.

EMPI described it as having "97% accuracy"

Lids · Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:28 pm Post subject:

The cylinder head temp by auto-haus was the only gauge they sold under their own name. All the other gauges they sold were made by VDO, SW etc.

Thornton · Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:09 pm Post subject:

1964 corvair catalog (from DaveM site)

1963 VW empi catalog
(from DaveM site)

because the Head temp in one is Celsius and the other Fahrenheit does not mean its specifically for that vehicle
the gauge itself exactly the same just different reading
but it does make sense that since Corvairs were american made cars, they would use Fahrenheit and VW being german they would use Celsius
like KPH compared to MPH

the Ammeter is Corvair ammeter

the head temp gauges and the ammeter gauge i posted above are made in the US

black globes, white globes are made in sweden same as the speedwell
in fact if you look at 66 and earlier empi catalogs they sell Speedwell gauges
in the 67 catalog they show the same style gauge as the speedwells but with the EMPI logo

and the red niddles empi gauges are japan
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HamburgerBrad · Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:53 pm Post subject:

of all these tachs in oval grills, which would be correct for a 53? or what year(s) are they correct for?

http://www.oval56.com/zubehoerpic/dzm61%20gitter.jpg

http://www.oval56.com/zubehoerpic/dzm%208000.jpg

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will-g · Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:54 pm Post subject:

Brad-
I dont know which is correct but the Grey faced Tach is bad ass! now i have to find one of those too Wink

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Lids · Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:01 pm Post subject:

I have an EMPI cat for corvair from 1962 and the cylinder head gauge is listed in there. Exactly the same details, pic and price as the 64 cat but on a different page.

will-g · Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:08 am Post subject:

This is a really cool gauge i wish i had one Wink

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will-g · Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:33 pm Post subject: VDO 3K RPM Tach

This one just closed on the auction site. i did not bid becouse it did not seem right, all the other period VDO tachs for VWs that have been posted are 6-8RPMS and this one is only 3 Confused

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Thornton · Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:28 am Post subject:

will-g · Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:33 pm Post subject:

Anyone want to venture a guess what this set up is worth?
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bathing ape · Samba Member Joined: December 22, 2005 Posts: 16

could someone please put up instructions for wiring empi gauges gen3,i have the sender,cheers


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