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Acetone Jack
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 Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:03 pm Post subject: solid mounting transaxle (empi) |
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Hey there,
I've been searching the forum for pictures or a guide on how to install a solid mount kit.
It's made by Empi and its all zinc coated.
can anyone help me out?
thanks,
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Dale M.
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Its simple... Remove rubber mount parts and replace with solid mount parts.... Its a one for one swap out....
Dale
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Tim10
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You will need to grind to fit.
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Dale M.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Tim10 wrote: |
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Never have yet.....
Dale
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madmike
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I would use the stock front !! Use a Mid-mount or a trans strap, Or you WILL break front nose cones!!! Madmike
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Dale M.
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Thought that was what the trans strap that comes in solid mount kit was for... To keep from breaking bolts out of nosecone mount then breaking nosecone itself....
Dale
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Acetone Jack
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| Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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hmmm the kit i have is one large zinc coated ( yellow and rainbowy ) back mount piece
and one small rectangular front mount piece.
It's a stock 1600dp going to a Thing trans axle.
should i use the front piece or not? I'm trying to stop the engine from dancing around when its warming up. |
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cobhc619
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| Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Rickosuave1987 has A few pictures of A solid mount kit on page 3 of his build thread. Seems like the same thing you should check it out
--http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=184058&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=40 |
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2gr8dgs
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| is this any help? [img][/img] |
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turnaround89
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i have a cage that mounts to the two frame horn bolts just like in the picture. what happens if i take those two bolts out to get the rear engine cage off, will anything happen to the tranny?
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Acetone Jack
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:05 am Post subject: |
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| yeah the kit i have doesnt come with a strap, will it break the nose cone if i install just the two mount pieces? |
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Dale M.
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Full kit with both trans straps....
http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ACC%2DC10%2D4780
Smaller strap goes over "hump" area on front of transaxle to keep it front tilting up and breaking nose cone...
Many run without it.... IF you are going "rough and tumble" I would use all four straps....
But on using solid mounts, its ALL or nothing... IF one end of trans is solid and other is on rubber, something is going to break (most likely end that is solid mounted).
You can always make straps ... Back is just 3/16 x 1 inch strap iron... The front strap is same thickness but a little wider....
Dale
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Tim10
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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leaving the front or changing really depens on your exact year of pan and tranny
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Jeff20B
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| I got a bucpack bust to bug solid mount kit. I was debating using the mid mount strap but decide to go ahead and use it. They recommend drilling through the frame horns amnd using the long bolts that come in the kit. I don't like the idea of drilling, but I will go ahead and do it. |
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Acetone Jack
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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its a 74 transaxle,
anyways what hardware goes in place of the stock urethane pieces with studs?
this kit really is useless... trying to have the engine back in today.
will grade 8 hardware suffice? (if i can find the right size) |
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Dale M.
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| Tim10 wrote: |
| leaving the front or changing really depens on your exact year of pan and tranny |
Think change is at "70'... My 69 pan is old style...
On buddys buggy we changed nosecones to older model, and welded tab on old style solid front mount to fit "studs" on late pan for my buddies buggy....
Dale
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Jeff20B
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Here is my quiet mount T1 kit.
This here is obviously wrong to anyone who's ever had clutch chatter caused by a bowden tube that wasn't properly bowed.
This is after I corrected it and added some spacers. The tube was too short because the car was set up for a bus tranny. Whoever swapped in the T1 didn't bother with the details.
They even forgot the bellhousing strap. I never noticed any problems.
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Acetone Jack
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Alright, got some hardened metric hardware, and got the transaxle mounted.
what ft-lb should i re-torque the bolts to?
thanks for all your help! |
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Acetone Jack
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Heres where I ended up, Thanks Again
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Jason C
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I think the accel. tube should be out of the trans strap. Is it just me or is that a crack in your trans next to the end of the bowden tube. Other wise it looks good.
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