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rubberdonkeyeye
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 Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:33 pm Post subject: Stove Burner Disassembly / Stove Wrench |
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Well, first off... thanks to you all for the info you've contributed to this board. I purchased an '86 westy about two months ago and this board has been invaluable!
So... my stove burners don't seem to be up to snuff and I've hit the wall for ideas so I thought I'd lay down my first post. One of them increases flame to the "low" setting and then immediately starts to dim the flame until it reaches the simmer just pass the "high" setting. The other one also works ok up until the low setting but when you pass that it blows out sometimes blowing some flame out the hole above the burner knob.
I'm pretty certain the tank is full as I've had it done twice. I was suspicious the guy didnt fill it properly the first time so I went back and made sure they filled it till it came out the bleeder. I took some compressed air and blew in the lines where they exit the tank and go up to the stove, and also in the holes above the knobs.. but to no avail!
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
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I've actually found tiny spider webs in the air mixing area after the valves. Pretty easy to find if you are looking for it. (I've found it on furnace burners too, so it was no surprise.)
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Perales
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You can look inside the burners by rotating the metal cover disk. They are keyed in, so rotate them until they lift off. Now you can look inside the burner itself. I agree with Al, spiders can be a real problem here. If you need to take it apart even further you will need the stove wrench, or something like it. Hopefully you or a PO didn't throw it out thinking it was just detritus.
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rubberdonkeyeye
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:56 am Post subject: |
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You can look inside the burners by rotating the metal cover disk. They are keyed in, so rotate them until they lift off. Now you can look inside the burner itself. I agree with Al, spiders can be a real problem here. If you need to take it apart even further you will need the stove wrench, or something like it. Hopefully you or a PO didn't throw it out thinking it was just detritus.
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Thanks for the input guys! I took off the metal covers and blew that out too. Its still not working properly so I guess I'll have to dig a little deeper. Unfortunately the key is long gone... but I'm sure I can rig something.
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The image file is scanned full size at 72 dpi Just print it out and you have a template to cut one out of some thick sheet metal.
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maybe I am confused by your description, but it sounds like your knob is set on the valve post incorrectly so when you turn to low you are actually making the valve open wider and getting a larger flame?
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Thanks for the photo of the wrench, I was wondering what that was for.
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If you don't have a wrench, it looks as if you could do the same thing with a pair of needlenose pliers, no?
Haven't tried it, tho.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 11:17 am Post subject: Re: stove burner funkiness / Stove Wrench |
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Here is the burner inside, there are two slots, obviously the wrench fits in these slots........
But turning it?
No Go......... the wrench tabs began to bend.
I was turning counter-clockwise.......... that is normal in most mechanical construction items. |
IIRC from when I removed the pots to polish them, the lock pin at 6:00 needs to be removed first. Or, does it move with the assembly up to the 3:00 position, then gets pulled out?  Can't remember.
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| Meanwhile...... what is this screw for? |
Mounts pot to stove base.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 11:20 am Post subject: Re: stove burner funkiness / Stove Wrench |
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It's been a few years since I rebuilt the stove on mine, but here are a couple pics I have on hand.
IIRC you have to press down a bit while turning the collar. Of course it's old, so give a couple squirts of PB Blaster.
The screws just hold the burner to the main bits.
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| kamzcab86 wrote: |
IIRC from when I removed the pots to polish them, the lock pin at 6:00 needs to be removed first. |
Ah, yes, forgot about that!
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| Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 11:34 am Post subject: Re: stove burner funkiness / Stove Wrench |
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Great photo!
That really helps a lot!
I don't see that steel pin in your photo but I do see a notch for it in the collar. |
Yep, strange, I usually make sure all the relevant screws, etc. are with the parts.
Went back to my photo collection and found the missing lock pins in this picture.
Not sure why I had them grouped like this, but it was a quickie shot.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 12:18 pm Post subject: Re: stove burner funkiness / Stove Wrench |
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| djkeev wrote: |
The photos are priceless!
Thanks!
I wasn't going to take a drift to the collar until I heard back from someone...... I really hate forcing stuff and thought that there just might be a "trick" to removing this puppy. |
You're welcome.
I always try to take a bunch of pictures when I take stuff apart. Not always the ones I later need   .
In the post above I said maybe you need to press down while turning the collar, I think I was mixing that up with the spring lock pins Kamz mentions. Once the pins are out I think it just turns freely.
I looked at the date on those pictures, they're from 2013. My memory is starting to fail  .
Interesting about the extra pressure regulator on the newer model stoves.
I'm guessing the regulators on the tanks must have been different?
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