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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:01 pm    Post subject: Solex choke... Reply with quote

I've been having trouble with my engine revving high constantly, now, i think it might have something to do with the chokes, umm just wondering what exactly it is that actuates the choke elements and also...how do i find exactly which type of carbs i have? Thanks, Adam.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends on your carb, you can find out what carb you have by looking at the side of it. The numbers are stamped onto the carb. You may have a:

28 PIC (manual choke)
28 PICT (electric choke)
28 PICT-1 (electric choke)
30 PICT-1 (electric choke)
30 PICT-2 (electric choke)
30 PICT-3 (electric choke)
34 PICT-3 (electric choke)

And not OEM carbs like:
BOCAR 30 PICT-1 (electric choke)
SOLEX BROSOL 30/31PICT (electric choke)

How the choke is actuated is simple, there is a wire coming either from the electromagnetic cut-off valve (long cylinder looking thing or short round looking thing with a wire coming out of it on either side of the carb)
OR a wire coming directly from the coil to the passenger side of the carb, connecting to the choke. You may want to adjust your chopke, here is a step-by-step procedure from a VW repair site:



http://vw-resource.com/choke2.html
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 8:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Solex choke... Reply with quote

Is the 28 OK to use on a 1300?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:25 am    Post subject: Re: Solex choke... Reply with quote

Depends on the 28 you are using. 28 PICT, 28 PICT-1, or a 28 PICT-2? The first 2 dont have a return spring, and the 3rd is basically a 30 PICT-1 with a power fuel system. On a 1300, id use a 30 PICT-1 myself with either a w-45 or a w-75. Those dont have a power fuel system. I am sure Andy will chime in here. Pr better yet look up his carb posts. He breaks down EVERY carb and what goes where.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 8:02 am    Post subject: Re: Solex choke... Reply with quote

If engine size is an issue I don't see a problem using a 28 on a 1300 since they were used on 1500s.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:39 am    Post subject: Re: Solex choke... Reply with quote

The only issue was the return spring assembly. The 28s dont have them except for 28 PICT-2s. Theyd work fine but you need that assembly, OR a top and arm from a 30 PICT-1
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:50 am    Post subject: Re: Solex choke... Reply with quote

Match your carb and distributor for best performance.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:45 am    Post subject: Re: Solex choke... Reply with quote

I have a Frankenstein 1300 in my 59 with a solex h30/31pict. What's the easiest way to go from an electric choke to manual?

I know people will ask why, to me it's more fun with a manual plus it reminds me of all my dad's old ass cars from when I was a kid.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:58 am    Post subject: Re: Solex choke... Reply with quote

Mayor Marion Berry wrote:
I have a Frankenstein 1300 in my 59 with a solex h30/31pict. What's the easiest way to go from an electric choke to manual?

I know people will ask why, to me it's more fun with a manual plus it reminds me of all my dad's old ass cars from when I was a kid.


Yes responding to an old thread. Was doing some research and tripped over this thread figure it would not hurt to add the below info.

There is a very hard to find ZVW part sold by VW that converted the later post-1960 Solex single carbs to manual choke. ZVW was the accessory line of parts sold thru VW, each had a part number starting with ZVW. You could try searching for such by entering "ZVW" in the search feature for the classifieds:

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/search.php...ton=Search

Over 200 pcs of ZVW parts in the gallery, did not find any images of the manual choke adapter in that search:

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_search.php...t_dir=DESC

You could go with a Brazilian made and I think designed down there H30-PIC, the "T" in PICT stands for electric choke.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2293366

or for less here:

https://vwparts.aircooled.net/30-PICT-1-Stock-Carburetor-Manual-Choke-113129027-p/113-129-027br.htm

Sometimes these H-30-PIC carbs can be found used in the classifieds or even Ebay.com for as little as $20.00.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 3:45 pm    Post subject: 28 PCI carb Reply with quote

I was curious if anyone knows where to find a manual and specs for a 28 PCI carb? It is the manual choke version of the 28 PICT.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 11:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Solex choke... Reply with quote

The letter "T" in PICT is for Thermo-electric Choke.

Beyond that, The 28PCI is a much different carburetor than the 28PICT. It was designed around having a manually operated choke cable going the dashboard. It also mated up with the distributor vacuum advance differently physically and functionally and was not used on the 40HP engine, just the 36HP (30bhp) engine.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/glutamodo/temp/CarbBaseFlangeNumbersA.doc

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:21 am    Post subject: Re: Solex choke... Reply with quote

glutamodo

thanks for the info....I still would like a manual or such for this carb.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:00 am    Post subject: Re: Solex choke... Reply with quote

dw_crash wrote:
glutamodo

thanks for the info....I still would like a manual or such for this carb.

dave


Here you go:
http://oacdp.org/pdfs/solex.pdf

Samba link:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/solex_carb/Solex_Carburetors.pdf

Also:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/carburetors.php
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:23 am    Post subject: Re: Solex choke... Reply with quote

thanks for the link
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 4:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Solex choke... Reply with quote

KTPhil wrote:
dw_crash wrote:
glutamodo

thanks for the info....I still would like a manual or such for this carb.

dave


Here you go:
http://oacdp.org/pdfs/solex.pdf

Samba link:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/solex_carb/Solex_Carburetors.pdf

Also:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/carburetors.php


There was a comment earlier in this thread about matching the carb with the distributor.

I have a 56 with a 36hp, PIC and this distributer but the Carb is bad. I also have a PICT and was thinking I could use that instead. I know the carb fittings for the fuel inlet and vacuum port are different but I was hoping I could use it for the time being.

Good? Bad? Just okay?

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