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my56sedan Samba Member

Joined: June 13, 2007 Posts: 120 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:28 pm Post subject: cb performance crank identification? |
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| Is therr anybody who knows the specs on a pn#18682 cb 82mm crank? Or maybe how I can find out? Its from the early 80's and still in the box. I want to make sure its worth using. |
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miniman82 Samba Swamp Donkey

Joined: March 22, 2005 Posts: 9515 Location: Southern Maryland
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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Why not call CB and ask them? A couple of those guys have been there that long- Bob for sure. _________________ Build thread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=212747
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Bashr52 Samba Member

Joined: July 16, 2006 Posts: 5669 Location: On an island in VA
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Cb usually stamps the crank with a stroke. |
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my56sedan Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| well, Im trying to find out what material its made out of. Im sure it forged and not cast, but I would like to make sure before I use it. |
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stoneloco808 Samba Member

Joined: June 15, 2007 Posts: 658 Location: Pakalolo Country, HI
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Are there any stampings of any kind anywhere on the crankshaft? If so, please post up what you find. |
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miniman82 Samba Swamp Donkey

Joined: March 22, 2005 Posts: 9515 Location: Southern Maryland
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my56sedan Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 6:21 am Post subject: |
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| box says PN# 18682 and crank is stamped the same |
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my56sedan Samba Member

Joined: June 13, 2007 Posts: 120 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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| CB just wrote back. They said they were sorry but they dont have any of that information anymore......... |
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Type 5 Joe Banned
Joined: January 18, 2003 Posts: 1795 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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| It can be visually Identified.... Post a picture. |
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Howard 111 Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2005 Posts: 1827 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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I had a CB crank many years ago. It was not a chromoly crank, and after several calls to CB about what it was made of, I decided to use it.
2 runs down the track, and the flywheel loosened. I tore the engine down, and there were cracks on the edges of several rod journals.
I stayed away from CB for many years after that, and they went through some major changes.
I imagine the info CB had on that crank went in the trash at the beginning of the company rebuild.
CB is a fine company now, and makes quality parts, but it wasn't always that way. I wouldn't use that crank unless you can have it tested and determine what it's made of.
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turboblue Samba Member

Joined: October 09, 2003 Posts: 4216 Location: Central Indiana
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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Many years ago just about all CB cranks were cast.
Forged cranks then were not very affordable to the average consumer.
Here is a picture that should help identify a cast from a forged crankshaft.
It is the parting line that tells all.
These are not VW crankshafts but they still apply.
Narrow parting line is a cast crank.
Wide parting line is a forged crank.
_________________ Gary
Turbo VW Sand Drag Buggy
"If you don't run into the Devil every once in awhile, you must be going in the same direction!" |
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Type 5 Joe Banned
Joined: January 18, 2003 Posts: 1795 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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I think the old CB Cast crank had a thick parting-line boss that looks like the forged chevy crank.
The CB cast crankshaft is alot more massive than a forged VW crank. I can tell at a glance. |
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my56sedan Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Im not sure that its cast. Ive been told that cast doesnt have a ring to it. Kinda just a thud. This one has a ring to it when tapped and it looks like most other forged cranks. Maybe Im just a tard for listening to so many different people. Ill get some pics up tonight. |
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Type 5 Joe Banned
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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A "Ring test" will work with cast or forged....
A "thud" means it is probably cracked. |
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my56sedan Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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miniman82 Samba Swamp Donkey

Joined: March 22, 2005 Posts: 9515 Location: Southern Maryland
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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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Looks just like the 82 stroke I have in the garage... _________________ Build thread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=212747
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my56sedan Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Is yours cast or forged? |
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stoneloco808 Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Curious how do the oil passage way plugs look like? Allen head plugs? Or looks like something like someone machined it down a bit? |
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my56sedan Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Nope. They look like their plugged with a metal plug..... |
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Type 5 Joe Banned
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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, but that is a Cast C.B. Crankshaft for sure......  |
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