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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:00 am    Post subject: Mcode 025 Seat belt mounts (what is this under my seat) Reply with quote

Any idea what this is under my front seat? I thought seat belt mounts. seems rather large for that and no other factory mount near edges of the seat.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's underneath? Pictures from the bottom maybe...

Never seen something like that before. Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's the factory seat belt mounting points for '62 bench seat models. I'm not sure why you aren't finding mounts on the outside edges. I've only spotted that setup once, and it was in a '62 kombi we cut up. It had the side mounting points as well.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone have a pic of the other mount?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't say I've had a 62 bus with factory belt mounts, but 62 beetles don't have the outer mounts, only on the upper door post and tunnel. Supposedly for a shoulder only belt, better than nothing I suppose Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That's the factory seat belt mounting points for '62 bench seat models. I'm not sure why you aren't finding mounts on the outside edges. I've only spotted that setup once, and it was in a '62 kombi we cut up. It had the side mounting points as well.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Ev do you know the m-code for this? or the bolt/thread pitch and size?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mcode 025.
I can post more pics or give dimensions of the outer mounts if youd like later today
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes please I probably have the outer mounts I just don't remember seeing them ?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a pic I had showing the outer location
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Here's a pic I had showing the outer location
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Those tubes look like they would make great bottle rocket launchers.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Here's a pic I had showing the outer location
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Those tubes look like they would make great bottle rocket launchers.


I have 4 of those ring mounts that were on my 66 deluxe - I do not want to let them go unless I do not need them. can anyone tell me if I would need them to mount seatbelts in my deluxe??
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't get the point of what those huge tubes serve? Surely there must be an easier way of securing seat belts in an early bus without the need for those rocket launchers?

My 60' currently has no seatbelts in it so am looking for ideas that require a minimum of cutting and drilling.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The inner mounts look overkill to me too.

I am thinking that if I hit something hard enough to stress those inner mounts, the nose of the bus will be touching them already.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't get the point of what those huge tubes serve? Surely there must be an easier way of securing seat belts in an early bus without the need for those rocket launchers?


maybee seatbelts in a bus was a fairly new thing for vw at the time, just a guess?

i too had a 62 standard / humpback seat bus, that had those type of mounts. that was a swr/bg. not sure if it had m025 as the m-plate was missing.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my thinking is regardless of them being overkill there allready there so I may as well use them. but since you can seat three up there does the middle belt mount? if to the center mount then it may be uncomfortable to wear or do the two passengers share a belt? I don't plan on having three up front but you never know
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't know about the state your in but up here if it's there it legally has to work(ie seatbelts,extra taillights,etc..)
i honestly don't see what good a seatbelt in a spittly would do
the last place i would want to be strap into in a wreck is in the front seat Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sventinker wrote:
my thinking is regardless of them being overkill there allready there so I may as well use them. but since you can seat three up there does the middle belt mount? if to the center mount then it may be uncomfortable to wear or do the two passengers share a belt? I don't plan on having three up front but you never know


I cut the mounts out of the rear seat area of a '74 bay that I will use to graft into my '59 for the sole purpose of holding me in the seat while off-roading.

Useless in a hard crash, but usefull to avoid being josoled around.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

joe56vw wrote:
i don't know about the state your in but up here if it's there it legally has to work(ie seatbelts,extra taillights,etc..)
i honestly don't see what good a seatbelt in a spittly would do
the last place i would want to be strap into in a wreck is in the front seat Confused


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tell that to this guy who was safely in his seatbelt while wis bus rolled 2.5 times. Not every accident is a frontal colision
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^^^^
Great point.

Aslo, if your bus was originally equipped with belts and you were NOT using them at the time of an accident, good luck getting any compensation for your injuries from either insurance company.
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