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Vanagon Nut Samba Member

Joined: February 08, 2008 Posts: 10504 Location: Sunshine Coast B.C.
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:02 pm Post subject: Marshall 290 LP Reg. Remove Plastic Cover? Edit: PIC |
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Hi all.
This is for the Marshall 290 regulator on my LP tank. Vent faces down, adjuster is covered and facing the tank.
Any tips on how to get plastic cover off and on, w/o damaging it?
Thanks,
Neil.
_________________ 1981 Westy DIY 15º ABA
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RadioRental Samba Member

Joined: June 30, 2009 Posts: 555 Location: stow, ma
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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This is probably too obvious so I'm curious why it wouldn't work. Is there anything stopping you from prying one of the four plastic clips back enough to get the cover moving? That appears to me how the cover went on.
Now, if there's not enough room to back the cover off like that without hitting the tank then you're going to have to disconnect at that brass coupling on the right of you picture _________________ __________________________________
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Vanagon Nut Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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RadioRental. Thanks.
yah, no room.
Reading the archives, Karl M refers to a Marshall 294. This model may install with pressure adjustment facing out and vent down. Googled images did not show this that I could see.
Issue is: regulator bulges out toward tank. Cover fits over this, but there is mere mm's between tank and cover.
Edit: cover was obviously installed before reg was.
This was done by a shop. Not me.
I will be experimenting with pressure adjustment. Don't want to play with fittings more than I need to. Mind you I guess two times isn't too much.
Neil.
Neil. _________________ 1981 Westy DIY 15º ABA
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PDXWesty Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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It looks like you need to loosen the fitting at the tank end and swing the regulator out away from the tank. That's the only way I see to do it. _________________ 89 Westy 2.1 Auto
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Vanagon Nut Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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| PDXWesty wrote: |
| It looks like you need to loosen the fitting at the tank end and swing the regulator our away from the tank. That's the only way I see to do it. |
Ah. There ya go. That might provide room. Otherwise, it's coming off!
Thanks,
Neil. _________________ 1981 Westy DIY 15º ABA
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Vanagon Nut Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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Ok. Thanks for the help. Once LH thread nut at shut off valve loosened, I could turn reg etc. a *little* CW (looking to front of van) Cover then came off. I watched to make sure that turning happened at pipe where it enters LH nut and not elsewhere. Checked for leaks after all was done.
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blakeck2 Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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Just curious as I just got a new Volkscafe regulator in the mail, why does it need to be pointed down? _________________ 1986 Vanagon Syncro GL, westy interior, GW 2.4 and all locked up
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Vanagon Nut Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| blakeck2 wrote: |
| Just curious as I just got a new Volkscafe regulator in the mail, why does it need to be pointed down? |
I don't know, but at the very least it might depend on certain laws. You got me curious. Google led me to an rv repair site. From one of their pages:
"Regulators should always be covered or in a compartment that restricts water from getting in. This is an oversimplification of the RVIA code. A towable with a cover over all of the propane storage system including the regulator is considered to be covered. Motorhomes with an underbelly tank need to have a cover over the regulator. Regulators have a vent that allows them to breathe as the diaphragm moves up and down to control the pressure. This vent should always point within 45° of straight down. There are two reasons for this, to restrict water from entering and if it does enter allow it to get out."
Another page suggests that water could get in and freezing.
The diaphram in the regulator is a delicate part.
Neil. _________________ 1981 Westy DIY 15º ABA
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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<<"Regulators should always be covered or in a compartment that restricts water from getting in. This is an oversimplification of the RVIA code. A towable with a cover over all of the propane storage system including the regulator is considered to be covered. Motorhomes with an underbelly tank need to have a cover over the regulator. Regulators have a vent that allows them to breathe as the diaphragm moves up and down to control the pressure. This vent should always point within 45° of straight down. There are two reasons for this, to restrict water from entering and if it does enter allow it to get out."
Another page suggests that water could get in and freezing>>
And here 's the problem with a Westfalia-it's tank placemet design stinks.
It doesn't make one iota of a difference which way the valve vents--the valve is parked right behind the L/H front wheel, & will catch everything being blown off of that wheel.
That propane valve can be vented up, down, left, or right--it's going to catch it all--water , snow , salt, ice, whatever.
The only protection provision VW made was the mud flap--how generous of them.
The placement of the vent hole doesn't make one difference.
I was wondering why in the heck the scewball has this valve on the tank backwards--so the cover can't be removed---crazy.
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Vanagon Nut Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Vanagon Nut wrote: |
<<"......This vent should always point within 45° of straight down. There are two reasons for this, to restrict water from entering and if it does enter allow it to get out."
Another page suggests that water could get in and freezing>> |
And here 's the problem with a Westfalia-it's tank placemet design stinks.
It doesn't make one iota of a difference which way the valve vents--the valve is parked right behind the L/H front wheel, & will catch everything being blown off of that wheel.
That propane valve can be vented up, down, left, or right--it's going to catch it all--water , snow , salt, ice, whatever.
The only protection provision VW made was the mud flap--how generous of them.
The placement of the vent hole doesn't make one difference.
I was wondering why in the heck the scewball has this valve on the tank backwards--so the cover can't be removed---crazy. |
Hadn't thought of those things.
Yah, I wasn't pleased at first but whatever.
The cover came off with little trouble following PDXWesty's suggestion. Still. With reg in that position, adjusting the pressure is harder.
Edit: especially since I'd never done that job before.
I guess the "screwball" installer up here in B.C. was just following any applicable local/provincial/national laws and/or shop mandates.
I dunno. Not my dept.
Neil. _________________ 1981 Westy DIY 15º ABA
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1988 Westy DIY 50º ABA
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