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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The problem with the felt seal is that it is intrinsically a poor design for this purpose - sooner or later it is going to leak.

If these new seals I've bought actually fit and work when they arrive, I'll sell the remaining items and we can go from there.

Let's see that they are suitable before we get too excited.
Ok, I'll just simmer down and wait for the verdict. What type of seal is used to seal the bottom of the main shaft by the pitman arm?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The problem with the felt seal is that it is intrinsically a poor design for this purpose - sooner or later it is going to leak.

If these new seals I've bought actually fit and work when they arrive, I'll sell the remaining items and we can go from there.

Let's see that they are suitable before we get too excited.
Ok, I'll just simmer down and wait for the verdict. What type of seal is used to seal the bottom of the main shaft by the pitman arm?


A proper lip seal...


The bag of seals arrived and I was duly impressed with them so headed on out to the garage with success on my mind...


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It was a nice but not overly tight press fit in the shaft and only needed a drift for the final stage of insertion. I used some Curil K2 engine sealant as a belt and braces approach.

18mm Socket was a perfect diameter 'press' to get it in.

There is a perfect 'shelf' for the seal to sit against a little further in than the original seal which makes sure that it is sitting square.

You can see the sealant squishing out from the rear view picture.


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After giving the input shaft a good polish to help the seal do it;s job, I greased everything up and slid the adjustment sleeve into position.


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I then drained the remaining fluid out of the box, remounted the top cover with sealant and added exactly 125ml as per the manual which amazingly filled it to precisely the bottom of the filler plug threads.


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And there it is, all done....


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Once I'd adjusted the shaft clearance I turned it lock to lock many times and waited to see what happened. two hours later and it was still bone dry...


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Result Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice LT!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:05 am    Post subject: seal of approval Reply with quote

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get it?...."seal" of approval:)

what's the part number...or measurements of the seal?

i have books of seals and oilite bearings here at work...should be able to find it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:26 am    Post subject: Re: seal of approval Reply with quote

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get it?...."seal" of approval:)

what's the part number...or measurements of the seal?

i have books of seals and oilite bearings here at work...should be able to find it.


Hey, that's my picture - come back to haunt me! Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whilst Alex has been beavering away on the king and link pins, I've been busy myself....

Today I decided to get the rear end finished off....

First up was another NOS treasure of goodness - some ATE hoses.


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A good while ago I ordered as a matter of course, a set of new stainless brake hose clips which look nice and shiny...


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Especially next to my crusty originals...


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Want to guess what happened next?

Did I use the new ones?

Nope - cleaned up the originals..... it's the only way!


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It was then just a case of fitting the fexi's and the original solids I'd cleaned up...


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And then came a job I'd been looking forward to for a long time - fitting the NOS rear shocks! Cleaned the mounting bolts and washers first...


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The fitted them up and coated them in the wax sealer, hence they look shiny as it's still wet in the picture.


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I reckon they look fantastic!

And finally..... as some of you who've been following all this from day one will know, I've saved and collected absolutely every single item I've removed from the car, catalogued and stored safely.

And if you want to know just how serious I am, here's all the dirt I've removed and collected from day one!


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The men in white coats are coming, I can feel it...!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just wonder what will be the next step to insanity Laughing Very Happy
Lovely job you are doing m8 !
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i love the bucket of mud! thats awesome, it really adds up fast! i bet it will be like sex on your honeymoon working on this car in the future as you wont be constantly getting dirt in your eyes and mouth working under the car!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just Think of the added gas milage.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lemonlib wrote:
Just Think of the added gas milage.


That's no joke - we're currently at the equivalent of $7.56 a gallon....
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With his attention to every detail, he wont be climbing back under this rig for a long time.
except maybe just to visit his handiwork.
outstanding job LT.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nick696 wrote:
........Lovely job you are doing m8 !

MODIFIER wrote:
.......outstanding job LT.

What they said!! I'm really taken by this thread and that car!
Anxiously awaiting every update.
You are to be commended sir.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can you ship this back to Portugal?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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With his attention to every detail, he wont be climbing back under this rig for a long time.
except maybe just to visit his handiwork.




I have a little bit of work to do to my '59 Canadian Custom sunroof this winter. The Brazillian master cylinder I installed 5 years ago failed this summer and warped some brake drums. No big deal really and I should have known better. This is the only work I've had to do since I assembled the car in 2005. The TR6 OTOH, I am disassembling again. I have had to take the engine apart every year since I assembled it in 2002. This year it broke an exhaust valve and lunched the cam. One of the wonders of old VWs is that you fix them once and they stay fixed as opposed to the British stuff which you fix and fix and fix... I thought I was a pretty good mechanic because of my success with beetles but if you want to know how good you really are buy a Triumph; it will test you to your limits.


BTW I thought LT meant Last Triumph as in that is the Last fucking Triumph I will ever own.


Beautiful, beautiful beetle:

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Nasty expensive bitch that I can't seem to live without:

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can you ship this back to Portugal?
Very Happy


I think you need to jack the car up and make 4 neat mounds of dirt under each of the tires and lower the car back down that way it can feel at home. maybe a small toothpick mounted portuqese flag stuck in 1 pile for good measure.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I have that much mud on my car right now. Shocked It goes to show just how well your car has been preserved.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BTW I thought LT meant Last Triumph as in that is the Last Triumph I will ever own.



Good try, but not quite... Wink


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The LT name is a 'double entendre'. Partly it means, this is it, this is my last attempt, the final one, the biggie etc, etc. The other part to the meaning stems from a car I used to own ^^ but it wasn't a negative reference to the car, more of a reference to it's historical status - but that's a story for another time....
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the record, I can now supply both upper and lower seals for early steering boxes as per my ad in the classifieds....


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$22 for the pair posted to the USA if anyone is interested....
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see an internet parts business in the making... You might make back the money you spent without having to sell the guitar and the nos parts after all.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jvulich wrote:
I see an internet parts business in the making... You might make back the money you spent without having to sell the guitar and the nos parts after all.


Too late - guitar had to go to pay for the 5 new tires... Sad
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