sleeping bags

[peaceful warrior]

[thummmper]

you guys have all these heaters and co2 alarms when all you need is a good bag and a medium sized dog, not unlike baboo, here. just like muffins in the oven.

[ZimZam]

I don't use sleeping bags any longer. Check out this link here. I think there is a two person model. Feathered Friends in Seattle also makes a two person sleeping bag called the Spoonbill if you still wanna go that way.

http://www.rayjardine.com/ray-way/Quilt-Kit/index.htm
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[msinabottle]

I dearly love sleeping in the cold, so long as my body is warm. One night when I knew I'd be sleeping in 18 degrees, I put a liner in a 40 degree bag,a mohair blanket over that, a quilt over THAT, and wore a navy wool watch cap over my ears and nose. I was FAIRLY warm, but rolling over was... difficult.

I went to a Big 5 discount sporting goods and bought a square Wenzl 0 degree sleeping bag, and tried that and the watch cap the following year. Slept WONDERFULLY in perfect comfort. Dogpilot's right about picking the right sleeping bag, but I had a Coleman Black Cat heater in the bench and no need or desire to use it.

Best!
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[Antron]

I'm telling ya, this is a smoking deal for awesome sleeping bags
http://www.armygear.net/ag/store/00148.html $134 for the 3 pc system is amazing...

[Mikeyb]

No doubt about it, Antron is right. That is one HELL of a deal for what you're getting. I use to sell outdoor gear and the quality to price ration on those bags is untouchable. I'm buyin' one. Thanks Antron!
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http://www.rayjardine.com/ray-way/Quilt-Kit/index.htm[/quote]

I'm sorry but that is the biggest piece of marketing BS I've ever seen.
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[sjhannan]

I agree, having a 0-degree sleeping bag is crucial. We just camped on the Washington coast this weekend (pictures soon) and it got down to the high 30's, not too bad but we were toasty . We let the 5-yr old have the 0-degree to stay warm.

we just had a few layers of blankets, thermals, and a cheap Coleman sleeping bag. We were pretty toasty.

I just got the window insulation kit that covers all windows for Christmas. This helped drastically. It kept in the heat in from the small heater we ran until we were warm and held our body heat the remainder of the night. I would definitely recommend these.

I also just thickened the standard curtains by ironing and sewing on custom fabric. Pictures to come of these too.

We ran a camping heater and also have a CO detector. We ran the heater until it was warm, with the sunroof wide open and slider cracked an inch. This was way much more than the 6 square inches they recommend (to keep O2 levels safe). Then turned it off and shut the door and sunroof to keep in the heat.

The bigger issue is not CO but Oxygen levels going below livable. I wouldn't recommend sleeping with the heaters through the night. The problem is that the higher CO levels make the Oxygen levels lower faster. See pdf. below for much more information on this. The abstract says it all but there is more detail in the report

Window insulation
http://www.busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=J12747

PDF on CO and Oxygen levels for catalytic propane heaters
http://www.cpsc.gov/library/foia/foia05/os/co03.pdf

Photos

http://picasaweb.google.com/hannanshots/WashingtonCoast#

[ZimZam]

[grambo]

We searched far and wide for a nice double bag that would be warm enough for cold nights in the Sierras and Nevada desert and came across this at a local shop: http://www.amazon.com/High-Peak-Foot-Degrees-Sleeping/dp/B000TM91WM

Otherwise, as people have said, you can usually zip two rectangular bags together. You might be able to construct a nice multi-season bag this way, a super thick one on one side that you can put on the top side in winter, and a thinner one on the other that you can put on the top side when it's warmer.

[drnich]

I use a 2 person bag from Big Agnes in my camper. It fits perfect and keeps me nice and warm. I believe they have 2 two person bags to choose from. The advantage to the BA bags is that they do NOT have insulation on the bottom of the bag. Instead they have a pocket in which you place your mattress /pad. For my camper, I keep a 2 inch memory foam pad in the bag pocket and just roll it all up and store behind the rear seat.

I also have 2 of the Army modular bag systems and they are awesome. Amazing deal for the price. Just too constrictingto use in the VW.

[windnsea]

I've got 2 new Army 3-piece bags in Pasadena for $110 if anyone is interested.

Gary

[DAIZEE]

CO (carbon monoxide) IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE.

It's presence is what uses up the hemoglobin so that the O2 can't attach. It's not because the O2 goes down, it's because CO has a greater affinity (its stickier) to hemoglobin and as the big bully, well O2 can't connect BUT don't ever foul yourself CO IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE! p.s. I don't understand why anyone would have a CO2 monitor????I come by this knowledge honestly as a retired registered respiratory therapist. We had a big discussion in another thread (Stealth).

I still like my sheets and use my flattened sleeping bag as a blanket. I don't like to be confined, even with 2 bags zippered together. I was the same way when I had my crusing sail boat. I guess it really depends on the decision maker tho.
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[psych-illogical]

I'm usually afraid to use my catalytic propane heater all night so I throw on a bunch of down. I make the bed with regular ol' sheets then I throw on a full rectangular down bag, rated to 20 deg. and then a down comforter. Works well down to about 15 deg. or so. Wife and I can snuggle and keep warm.

That 20 deg. down bag is from LL Bean. As I said, it's fully rectangular and it zips together with a mating bag if you have two. I've had mine for well over 20 years and the down is kinda beat down so it doesn't keep me as warm as it used to. I believe they still make that bag as well as a 0 deg. version. Good quality stuff and packs very small.

As for that 3 pc. military bag the ad says, 'Due to weight limitations, this item cannot be shipped by air.' Holy crap! What does that thing weigh? I know that it really doesn't matter when you can throw it in your van but, damn. Weight and bulk tend to go hand in hand. I'd like to be able to fit a couple of folding chairs behind the seat too.
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[Corwyn]

Coleman makes a bag that kept me warm and toasty in the Anza-Borrego at 30F:

http://www.coleman.com/coleman/colemancom/detail.a...amp;brand=
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[J Charlton]

The ever present 4 sleeping bags, 4+ pillows and clothing bags for 4 people (myself, my wife and 2 kids) was the motivating factor that started me on the quest for a hightop several years ago. A real side benefit is the abilty to have a decent, comfortable mattress up top as well.
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[Camp&Ride]

Gotta say, Big Agnes synthetic fill Bags are the goods! They are much more packable without the insulation on the bottom. I have a 2" memory foam pad that I just roll up w/ bag inside (burrito style). Takes 2 seconds to prep for sleepy-time.
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[Camp&Ride]

oh, big agnes double - Dream Island 15 deg:
http://www.rei.com/product/775918
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[Williamtaylor33]

The best deal I've found on sleeping bags is at SAMs club. Every so often they have Colman brand 0 degree bags for cheap. Then a mr. Buddy to warm it up in the mornng is the perfect cheap setup.
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