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drumming123 Samba Member

Joined: April 04, 2004 Posts: 723 Location: Merced, California
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:34 pm Post subject: 64 sundial. What do you think? |
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Well, here is the bus I had pulled out of a field and dropped in my driveway. It's a 64 sundial that has been beat to death. It was sold to me 'on the cheap' so I figured why not, it'll be worth more than that in parts or scrap weight.
I gave a brief history of the bus HERE in the bus hunting thread along with a few pictures of how it sat in the field. So now I've got it home and had a chance to start cleaning it out. The front floors are pretty rough along with the area where the spare tire sits (no holes here yet, but once i wire wheel it clean im sure there will be).
I just sold my daily driver bay window, and so have a few thousand (not enough to get a driving split that I’ve found) to put into a new project which will also need to be my daily. Basically i'm asking everyones opinion on what to do with it. Would you fix it and roll it? Is it too rough to even bother with on my budget? I don't particularly mind the aesthetics of it, with its acne scars and all, I'm more concerned of all the little pieces that could potentially nickel and dime me to death to get it driving.
I don't have welding experience, however i'm not afraid to try. I've found a lincoln 140c here on our local craigslist for $350 i was thinking about picking up. Enough rambling and on to the pictures, let me know what you’d do.
I present to you "Borrachos Bus"
As found:
Somewhat cleaned out:
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SingleWheel Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2004 Posts: 184
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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That likes like original paint, and there seems to be a lot of it...
I'm not seeing anything that would stop me from making it a driver. Especially if you got it at a good price. Straighten out the roof as you go. Looks like the tranny is in it.
I like it... _________________ Visit http://www.singlewheel.com |
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vintagevolks Samba Member

Joined: December 11, 2000 Posts: 2476 Location: Montana
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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drive it as is or part it out!! _________________ 59 Ragtop
65 Restored Kombi... Went to the UK |
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Emeritusx Samba Member

Joined: June 20, 2008 Posts: 2775 Location: 12 inches behind the wheel
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Wow dude, poor bus looks beat... How's the front end? cant see anything there.. Looks like you got a lot of work ahead but it does have potential.. |
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drumming123 Samba Member

Joined: April 04, 2004 Posts: 723 Location: Merced, California
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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| SingleWheel wrote: |
That likes like original paint, and there seems to be a lot of it...
I'm not seeing anything that would stop me from making it a driver. Especially if you got it at a good price. Straighten out the roof as you go. Looks like the tranny is in it.
I like it... |
As far as I can tell, it's all original paint. I used some rubbing compound on a small spot, just to see how it cleaned up, and MAN does that thing shine! Too bad the body is so rough. And no tranny. However, from what I've been reading I'd opt for a straight axle set up anyway.
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| Wow dude, poor bus looks beat... How's the front end? cant see anything there.. Looks like you got a lot of work ahead but it does have potential.. |
No front end either.  |
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70 140 Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2002 Posts: 8471 Location: Ontario Canada
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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I bet the neighbors love it  |
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KombiMarc Samba Member

Joined: January 29, 2010 Posts: 431 Location: Phoenix, Az
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like a lot of work to me, I suppose make it a driver and roll it, or part it out and add to the bankroll you got started and find a better candidate. Good luck either way...!! _________________ ________________
Thanks Marc
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'65 Type I
'65 Type II Kombi Rebuild Thread
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=459009 |
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my65vert Samba Member

Joined: November 09, 2003 Posts: 6187 Location: Middleburg, Florida
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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part it. _________________ OGJHC
Kombisutra;
I'm starting to get little wafts of bus stink coming from the north. Something about the unique scent of drivers seat padding when it's glued together with mouse piss and shit that really gets me going... and I'm smelling it! Oh yeah! Time to start loading up the equipment. |
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cru62 Samba Member

Joined: December 31, 2002 Posts: 4121 Location: Margaritaville.....24/7
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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Matt, if you do decide to part it, I'd like to get some parts from you! _________________ "My biggest worry is that when I die, my wife will sell all my parts for what I told her I paid for them"-Jon
Jokes about German sausage are the wurst.
Stop dead photo links! Post your photos to The Samba Gallery! |
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cru62 Samba Member

Joined: December 31, 2002 Posts: 4121 Location: Margaritaville.....24/7
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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Matt, if you do decide to part it, I'd like to get some parts from you! _________________ "My biggest worry is that when I die, my wife will sell all my parts for what I told her I paid for them"-Jon
Jokes about German sausage are the wurst.
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hazetguy Samba Member

Joined: April 06, 2001 Posts: 10804 Location: the past
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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| 64 sundial. What do you think? |
better you than me, that's for sure. |
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Campy Samba Member
Joined: January 10, 2005 Posts: 4933 Location: Chico, CA
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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Don't part it out; get that sucker rolling. MIG welders are easy to use. Remember that the dents on the roof have ridges around them; tap them down to relieve the stress on the sheet metal to allow the metal to move up. _________________ Don't worry; be happy. (Baba) |
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Manfred58sc Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2009 Posts: 3471
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Get it on its feet,that always makes projects less scary. I think it is very fixable,my sc was way worse. If you take your time and do a little every week it doesn't break the bank. I would give it a bit of a lift and "mountain bus" it that would look cool. Nice find..part the wrecks not the repairable..there are not many left as it is. Today's split are tomorrow's barndoors. |
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sventinker Samba Member

Joined: June 10, 2009 Posts: 1481 Location: the sandbox
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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you are a brave man for taking this one on! _________________ April 3rd 62 standard mgr/pw
374 North American equipment
Includes 6 popouts
025 Safety belts
195 Adjustable bench seat/backrest (until 1963)
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drumming123 Samba Member

Joined: April 04, 2004 Posts: 723 Location: Merced, California
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I'll do one of two things with it:
1) Let it sit in my backyard and piece it together slowly as I hit swaps and gather cheap parts for it. I am not concerned with the body at all, I somewhat like it trashed the way it is, sort of tells a story about the life it's lived. I've seen much worse dug from the grave and put back together. I think Manfred58sc was right, if i get back on some wheels it'll be a lot less intimidating.
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2) Part it out as KombiMarc suggested and use the funds in combination with my baybus funds to search for a better candidate.
Has anyone checked out THIS bus? I was thinking about making a drive out and looking at it tomorrow, but if anyones already done so and could give me a heads up that'd be great. |
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ezcamper Samba Member

Joined: January 10, 2001 Posts: 920 Location: Atlantic Beach, FL
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like an E-Z Camper to me. The z bed parts should say E-Z Camper on there with the patent #. _________________ I make HWE style roof racks, Jim-Dandy racks, SO-33 metal parts, Dormobile racks, HWE style ladders, engine crank start handles, Westy rack tags, Binz tags, Sundial badges, State of California tags, steering lock electrical covers and single / double cab gate latch friction blocks.
instagram is http://instagram.com/bullidriversteelworks |
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Culito 11010101

Joined: December 07, 2006 Posts: 5882 Location: Columbia Missourah
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like a fun project.
I'd get inside and start pounding those roof dents out just for fun. Since the roof looks solid enough, I bet you could get it pretty straight without damaging anything.
I'd avoid parting it out...and have fun with it! _________________ © CJ Industries, Inc.
'64 standard w/2.0L type 4
'62 bug
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Jerry Samba Member
Joined: October 28, 2007 Posts: 1367
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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I'd part it out, trying to get that thing straight would become disheartening. _________________ Looking for SO34 parts.
thevwcompound *instagram* |
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Campy Samba Member
Joined: January 10, 2005 Posts: 4933 Location: Chico, CA
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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If you don't want it, sell it to someone who will get it going. If the frame rails are not rusted out, that bus should be saved; there are only so many VW buses left, and there will be fewer of them in this country every year. Get it to my house and I will help you repair the roof. _________________ Don't worry; be happy. (Baba) |
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big bus mike Samba Member

Joined: June 16, 2004 Posts: 2231 Location: ABQ
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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You're kidding yourself if you think you're going to put it together and daily drive it for a couple grand. It could technically be done, but you'd have to get killer deals on EVERYTHING. You'd be better of buying a beater daily / throw-away car and putting this bus together as time and funds allow.
Not trying to crush your dreams, just being realistic. These things nickel and dime you to death if you let them. Of course your priorities may differ than mine. Window seals, functional lighting, dependable brakes, and doors that close and stay closed are important to me. Also a decent drivers seat goes a long way toward not hating life if it's a daily.
Good luck with whatever decision you make. |
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