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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:04 pm    Post subject: Need help identifying my new bug Reply with quote

Hello new to the forums and have a coulpe questions. I've been lurking around and doing some research but still need some help. I think its a 1961???

First WA title says 66 when its clearly not. Any suggestions on how to get it fixed.

Second is the front apron correct?? It has 2 rib but not sure if that would be correct..

Third is the 4 tab hood correct??

Fourth I have one hella big logo at bottom lense and one small logo at the top lense. Which is correct??

Thanks!!!!

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i cant really help but your bug is beautiful! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

October '60

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/bugchassisdating.php
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice Patina. Suggest that you could steel wool the major rust off. Then obtain some TR-3 and apply it to the car. I will make the rust shine and helps if from rusitng.
On the year issue, what is on the tunnel, the pan number. That could be 66. Is it a ball joint or king pin front end?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like its a "small window" car and looks like a short axle trans. 66 trans' have long axles so my guess is that the pan wont be a 66. But that's just my contribution to the guessing game Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the number on the pan under the rear seat?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'61-'62 seems right, and the vin says '61. '61 was the first year for the non-h front apron, and '63 has a raised emblem hood.

And I have to agree, that is a gorgeous car, I love the patina
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your help on this!!! I love the car it's a blast to drive. Needs a new steering gear, has massive play in the steering wheel. It has a franklin's adjustable front beam, spindles, new tie rods and entire new brake system. Needs an engine rebuild (leaks bad). The wife unfortunatly doesn't like how low it is so I need to raise it up a bit. The rear jack points will hit the yellow lane turtle things. lol I need to find a rear deck lid. The current one is red and doesn't fit that well. I will take some pics of the inside and under the rear seat with the badge under there.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gt1953 wrote:
Nice Patina. Suggest that you could steel wool the major rust off. Then obtain some TR-3 and apply it to the car. I will make the rust shine and helps if from rusitng.
On the year issue, what is on the tunnel, the pan number. That could be 66. Is it a ball joint or king pin front end?


Who makes TR-3 and where could I get it??? Thanks!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a pan job to me. I bet the vin on your registration matches the pan but not the body. Better hope the body vin doesnt come back as stolen.

Apron and 4 tab are correct even though you will hear others argue about the hood.

Hope it comes back clean.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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gt1953 wrote:
Nice Patina. Suggest that you could steel wool the major rust off. Then obtain some TR-3 and apply it to the car. I will make the rust shine and helps if from rusitng.
On the year issue, what is on the tunnel, the pan number. That could be 66. Is it a ball joint or king pin front end?


Who makes TR-3 and where could I get it??? Thanks!!!


"TR3 Resin Glaze" is just a brand and type of car wax, available at most FLAPS.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well the title matches the front vin plate. But I won't know if it matches the pan till this weekend. The car is currently in Olympia, WA and I work in Portland, OR. But I hope it's clean... So I will try some of that TR3 stuff to slow down the rust.. LOL I'm hoping to paint it soon one way or another...

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gt1953 wrote:
Is it a ball joint or king pin front end?


It is a king pin front end.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Need help identifying my new bug Reply with quote

rat70fj wrote:
October '60

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/bugchassisdating.php


It's actually a Nov. '60 produced body. The chassis #'s listed in the table are for the LAST vehicle produced in that month.

boring63 wrote:
Second is the front apron correct?? It has 2 rib but not sure if that would be correct..

Third is the 4 tab hood correct??

Front apron looks like mine on my Apr. '61 built ragtop. But I've seen a Sept. 1960 built '61 with a 3-rib front apron. I haven't been able to pinpoint when the change took place. It's been narrowed down to Oct. or Nov 1960. See discussion on last page of this thread - 1961 One-Year-Onlies...

According to Progressive Refinements, the 3-tab hood started Jan. 2, 1961 with chassis 3 550 952. So the 4-tab hood is correct for your car.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the numbers on the pan. They match!!!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice car I have a november 60 car as well, my vin is 99375 higher than yours.
do you have the original non sending unit fuel tank?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

heres a pic of my original apron
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya, sure do! Thanks for the complement!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a '61. It's my old car - I rescued it from a barn in the Granite Falls area about 2 years ago. I miss that thing - it's a fun cruiser!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

please don't ruin the patina with a paint job
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