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jerrydunn1 Samba Member
Joined: September 11, 2012 Posts: 7 Location: The Hood
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:17 pm Post subject: How do I Patina? |
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Does anybody have any good ideas and pictures on how to patina a "perfectly good paint job" I'm seeing it all over and all those cars can't be naturally that perfectly patina'd.....any ideas  |
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DuaneL Samba Member

Joined: February 02, 2012 Posts: 511 Location: Spokane WA
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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you might try googleing the term faux patina seems to return a lot of results _________________ ____________
1971 std bug, 1776, ACN Super Stock 34-3, dvda dist, 27x8.50 14 tires |
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Wideopen Samba Member
Joined: May 17, 2012 Posts: 279 Location: N. California
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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You drive the car as it is!
The fake patina, to me is a joke! Research it, it can be done.
I see no reason to fake it, you either have it or you don't, nothing wrong if you don't!
"Patina" to me, is the new fad. I have seen many(fads), and am not trashing you if that is what you want...so be it!
This goes in cycles as far as I have seen, remember the wild paint jobs from the 1980-90's? Maybe you don't! _________________ 1971 Super Beetle...owned
Squareback.....wife is begging for....not in the $ right now!lol |
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dubllyou Samba Member

Joined: May 24, 2012 Posts: 1251 Location: Jack & Cee Motors
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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I kinda like the survivor look of old paint that's worn through and baked off with maybe a few surface rust areas and such. To me it can get a little obvious that it's faked when people buff or sand through the paint to make it look old. I don't like that much but that's just me. I'd drive it like it is and just don't wash it or wax it for several years and leave it out in the sun, it'll start to develop some patina after awhile.
edit: You could "wash" it with a scotch brite pad and then "polish" it with rubbing compound, that'd probably speed up the aging process a little.
What kind of paint job are you starting with? Original or a repaint? If it was repainted, you might try stripping it down to original and see what it looks like. There's a good thread on that in the stickys of the body/paint section. _________________ Two wrongs don't make a right...
three lefts do.
Wade
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EverettB  Administrator

Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 71820 Location: Phoenix 602
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mrbigmax Samba Member
Joined: September 10, 2011 Posts: 1289 Location: Modesto, CA
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Find someone to trade your pretty sheet metal for their ugly bent up rusted stuff. |
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slamdunkdub Samba Member
Joined: August 12, 2005 Posts: 8 Location: Hertfordshire, England
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:51 am Post subject: |
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Leave it outside for 40 years.
Anything else is pointless.
Fake patina is like fake boobs, everyone knows its fake, understands why its been done, but always prefers the real deal. |
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ROCKOROD71 Samba Member

Joined: January 18, 2012 Posts: 2770 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:49 am Post subject: |
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^^^^most brilliant post I've read on the Samba for months. I agree. Patina is for people who already own beaters. If your car is nice and all one color just leave it. It will be Patina'd in time. _________________ 1971 STD BEETLE- DD-1st car, 1st love. keepin' it stock! 1600DP, Solex 34-3 Mexi Bosch SVDA Dist NOW w/POINTS
1977 WESTY "KrustyKamper" 2L FI
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30 years from now, the next guy may not want your girlfriend, but he may want your classic car, depending on how nice you were to it. |
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Careful guys, a petulant child can grow up to be president these days. |
**winter drivers: no survivors!**rust warrior**#keepbodyshopsbusy** |
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drs1023 Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2011 Posts: 1682 Location: Georgia, USA
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:21 am Post subject: |
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Agree with all above. As a teen driver in the 60's, I washed my old '59 Ford every few days by driving it into the shallow part of a creek on the farm and using mom's washing powders. Rinsed it with a well bucket full of water, then paste-waxed that old paint with elbow grease and some discarded nylon underwear (sister's - not mine!). I still don't get the patina craze.
If you just have to do it, check out powerblocktv.com from a year or so back. They did a faux-tina on an early 50's Chevy pickup (Project ClassSix) that turned out nice enough. |
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RPGreg2600 Samba Member

Joined: November 07, 2010 Posts: 1657 Location: Vallejo, CA
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:32 am Post subject: |
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| Got a picture of your car? |
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oasis Samba Member
Joined: December 12, 2002 Posts: 2193
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:25 am Post subject: |
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The original poster has two other posts on how to convert a '69 to a wide-five pattern. My guess is next on his list is how to get a smaller rear window followed by asking a Brit to fly a Spitfire over his car and put some WWII lead holes into the body.  _________________ Now: 2003 New Beetle Turbo S / 1990 Single Cab Transporter / 2014 Tiguan R-Line 4motion / 2013 Tiguan S / 2002 Golf GLS TDI
Past: 1974 Thing Acapulco / 2009 Eos Komfort / 1997 Jetta GT / 2002 Cabrio GLX / 2002 Passat GLS / 1971 Super Beetle / 1993 EuroVan MV Westfalia / 1981 Pickup LX / 1985 Vanagon / 1986 Jetta GLI |
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Busdriver79 Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2011 Posts: 1655 Location: The Peoples' Republic of "No" Jersey
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:23 am Post subject: |
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Park it under a tree full of pidgeons that just ate purple grapes.  |
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mrmarcdude Samba Member
Joined: December 15, 2005 Posts: 714 Location: Vacaville, Ca
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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| slamdunkdub wrote: |
Fake patina is like fake boobs, everyone knows its fake, understands why its been done, but always prefers the real deal. |
Thats going in the sig. line!
To the OG poster. To make it more realistic dont fix any body damage, and wear away paint that comes into contact with stuff frequently (ever rest your arm on the window sill?). High points along the body work work too, and as posted above you HAVE to put down the correct colors of primer to pull it off. Otherwise it will look like the neighborhood kids went to town on your car with sandpaper. |
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Maddog209 Samba Member

Joined: November 03, 2011 Posts: 291 Location: Central Valley, Ca.
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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I think the "patina" catagory was founded by those that didn't have the budget to fully restore but still have the passion to drive classic and historic vehicles. I look at those type of vehicles and can't help but stop, look and wonder......if only that car could tell it's life story. How cool would that be? _________________ Current VW's= 2013 Tiguan, 1968 Bug |
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dubstar Samba Member
Joined: January 17, 2009 Posts: 1438 Location: New York
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Cadaver Samba Member

Joined: April 24, 2012 Posts: 2338
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:53 am Post subject: |
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it's on the history channel "FAST AND LOAD"
this BS. (fad what ever)
its because they are doing, FLIP AND RIP cars
$500 car
the tune it up then clear coat the rust and sell it to a sucker for $5000
watch em !
but Patina to most means , natural rust. (and thin, not cancer rust)
I like Rays Restorations, a straight up guy! (not cheap)
so,
natural?
faux.? (aka antiquing) simulated rust.... $$$$
or clear coat over natural?
or clear over faux.?
pick one.
not saying I know what is best. for sure dont.
but IM Earl Scheib , to a fault.
perfect mechs. and $99 paint. even house paint....
my house is brick, because paint sucks...
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in Samba classifieds....1968 T1. |
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gt1953 Samba Member

Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13957 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:02 am Post subject: |
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Look at my gallery...My one car is not FAKE. Fake patina stands out as fake. Why not find one that is the real deal. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
72 type 1
72 Squareback
({59 Euro bug, 62, 63, 67, 68, 69, 73 type ones 68 & 69 type two, 68 Ghia all sold}) |
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Cadaver Samba Member

Joined: April 24, 2012 Posts: 2338
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:58 am Post subject: |
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its ART, and as such , the eye of the beholder. etc...
we were talking the mechanics of all ways.
long live sherman and williams.. _________________ for sale now.
in Samba classifieds....1968 T1. |
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akcapsamb Samba Member

Joined: September 11, 2010 Posts: 107 Location: East Coast
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:31 am Post subject: |
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I'll try to find some of the posts on this.
It's not for me either, but hey... I love it when someone wants to do they're own thing! |
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Cadaver Samba Member

Joined: April 24, 2012 Posts: 2338
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:33 am Post subject: |
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me too,
especially a Rhino-liner coated everything. or with camo paint.
i think the best car would be made for the stuff , Aircraft black boxes
are made from........  _________________ for sale now.
in Samba classifieds....1968 T1. |
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