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bruce jones Samba Member

Joined: July 17, 2003 Posts: 324 Location: South Carolina
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:49 am Post subject: |
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Jacks
You have a better eye then me. This is confusing - the car in the video is clearly a coupe, and the car I remember from 30 years ago was a cabrio. Somehow I completely missed that when I watched the video. Maybe there are two 1950 Porsches in the museum, both black (and both evidently having the same rear tag number). Strange. _________________ Driving in the slow lane since 1969. |
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Unobtanium-inc Samba Member

Joined: April 07, 2007 Posts: 345 Location: Upstate NY
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| Yeah, I don't think cost was an option on this one, I remember hearing a story of Stuart flying with his mechanic to go see Dr. Brett Johnson's cab, so they could make sure they ran the brake lines right. |
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levinscm Samba Member
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| Yes, the car in the video is not the same as the cabriolet. My father, the late Dan Levinson, purchased the 5014 from Fred Vosselman and years later sold it to Bob Heller in Westport. It appeared as it did in the photos at Bob's house, silver w/ a blue stripe. and the buckles on the hood. It was in our Westport garage for most of my very early childhood, during the 1970s. |
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tisius Samba Member

Joined: July 11, 2011 Posts: 1570 Location: Rotterdam,NL (+Chicago,IL)
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Porsche rebodied it as a coupe? |
haha, i hope not
That picture better be of a different car!  _________________ drive it like you just robbed the bank
you don't have to be crazy to be into VW's, but it sure helps!!
.... if it ain't dutch, it ain't much! |
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TK6A5 Samba Member
Joined: September 09, 2010 Posts: 28
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:14 am Post subject: Re: 356 |
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The Paterek Brothers, Chatham NJ (John and Ray) did the restoration to exacting standards. I remember them mentioning that they had to make, from scratch, 4 hub caps since none were available either used or repopped.
Stuart Zeh has owned many Concours Porsches and spares no expense in restorations. This car was no exception. Just plain stunning. I was glad I had a chance to see it before it went to the Porsche Museum.
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Dave,
After Dr. Porsche acquired the car it was completely restored again. I was shown pictures of the car in bare metal by a friend of mine and they were not pretty......... shiny paint and bling chrome work can hide a lot of things. It was very clear that expenses were spared on the metal work. |
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MMW Samba Member
Joined: April 30, 2012 Posts: 846 Location: northern NJ
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:13 am Post subject: Re: 356 |
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The Paterek Brothers, Chatham NJ (John and Ray) did the restoration to exacting standards. I remember them mentioning that they had to make, from scratch, 4 hub caps since none were available either used or repopped.
Stuart Zeh has owned many Concours Porsches and spares no expense in restorations. This car was no exception. Just plain stunning. I was glad I had a chance to see it before it went to the Porsche Museum.
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Dave,
After Dr. Porsche acquired the car it was completely restored again. I was shown pictures of the car in bare metal by a friend of mine and they were not pretty......... shiny paint and bling chrome work can hide a lot of things. It was very clear that expenses were spared on the metal work. |
TK6A5 (name?)
Are you saying the Paterek's did not do a good job? I find that hard to believe given their reputation. _________________ Mic
1959 356 coupe
Missing the original engine 72488
Update - third pc. found!
Now just need the case halves.
1965 fenderless beetle |
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TK6A5 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:34 am Post subject: |
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I also know of their reputation. Perhaps the owner did now want to spend the extra $$$ to have the metal work corrected. All I know is that the car was completely restored again in Germany/Austria after it was purchased by Dr. Porsche. If I remember correctly there were also problems with the transmission. Next time I talk to my friend I will ask him the particulars.
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roy mawbey Samba Member
Joined: May 21, 2012 Posts: 397 Location: Sussex England
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:48 am Post subject: |
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Wow, now that is an interesting thread. I did hear about the car returning back to Germany but knew nothing of its history. Enjoyed the photo's!
I wonder where they located the engine not many spare ones of those around I guess.
Roy _________________ Roy
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bbspdstr Samba Member
Joined: May 11, 2012 Posts: 494 Location: PA
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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John Paterek made an interesting presentation about the restoration of that Cab at the Registry's 2006 Mystic, CT, Holiday.
The hubcaps were the REAL "unobtanium" and made with a special die set to create the rings seen in the "baby moons" pictured in this thread, unfortunately making even them "unoriginal."
There were many other compromises due to worn, missing or broken parts.
I have many (film) pictures of Bob Heller (seen in his typical squatting position in one photo) taken when that rat was driven cross-country to Holidays like Indy in '77.
Later, Bob was known for offering a set price to replace the floor in your 356. The story I heard was that Bob's wife required attention to some sort of medical condition and 5014/5015 went to Stu Zeh and on to Paterek's shop for the gonzo resto. Yes, Joris, I also heard that when transferred to the museum, it was re-restored after a trans "problem" which lit the fuse.
Often, the more money poured into a restoration is the inverse of the enjoyment of the restored car. Bob Heller likely had the right idea...just drive it 'til ya can't drive it anymore. _________________ Bruce Baker
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Tortie Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2009 Posts: 56 Location: GA
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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That center seam fan shroud would seem to me to be almost in the same category as the hub caps. I've never seen one for sale, ever.
The earlier, unrestored pictues show a different engine configuration, at least with later air cleaners, an oil filter, voltage regulator, oil filler, and the more common fan shroud. |
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janerick3 Samba Member

Joined: June 04, 2006 Posts: 1903 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Tortie wrote: |
That center seam fan shroud would seem to me to be almost in the same category as the hub caps. I've never seen one for sale, ever.
The earlier, unrestored pictues show a different engine configuration, at least with later air cleaners, an oil filter, voltage regulator, oil filler, and the more common fan shroud. |
When Bob Heller owned 5014, the engine in it was a 1500 Normal. _________________ Thanks,
Jan K. |
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