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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jacks

You have a better eye then me. This is confusing - the car in the video is clearly a coupe, and the car I remember from 30 years ago was a cabrio. Somehow I completely missed that when I watched the video. Maybe there are two 1950 Porsches in the museum, both black (and both evidently having the same rear tag number). Strange.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I don't think cost was an option on this one, I remember hearing a story of Stuart flying with his mechanic to go see Dr. Brett Johnson's cab, so they could make sure they ran the brake lines right.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the car in the video is not the same as the cabriolet. My father, the late Dan Levinson, purchased the 5014 from Fred Vosselman and years later sold it to Bob Heller in Westport. It appeared as it did in the photos at Bob's house, silver w/ a blue stripe. and the buckles on the hood. It was in our Westport garage for most of my very early childhood, during the 1970s.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jacks wrote:
Porsche rebodied it as a coupe?


Razz

haha, i hope not Surprised
That picture better be of a different car! Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:14 am    Post subject: Re: 356 Reply with quote

dcheek wrote:
The Paterek Brothers, Chatham NJ (John and Ray) did the restoration to exacting standards. I remember them mentioning that they had to make, from scratch, 4 hub caps since none were available either used or repopped.

Stuart Zeh has owned many Concours Porsches and spares no expense in restorations. This car was no exception. Just plain stunning. I was glad I had a chance to see it before it went to the Porsche Museum.

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Dave,

After Dr. Porsche acquired the car it was completely restored again. I was shown pictures of the car in bare metal by a friend of mine and they were not pretty......... shiny paint and bling chrome work can hide a lot of things. It was very clear that expenses were spared on the metal work.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:13 am    Post subject: Re: 356 Reply with quote

TK6A5 wrote:
dcheek wrote:
The Paterek Brothers, Chatham NJ (John and Ray) did the restoration to exacting standards. I remember them mentioning that they had to make, from scratch, 4 hub caps since none were available either used or repopped.

Stuart Zeh has owned many Concours Porsches and spares no expense in restorations. This car was no exception. Just plain stunning. I was glad I had a chance to see it before it went to the Porsche Museum.

Dave


Dave,

After Dr. Porsche acquired the car it was completely restored again. I was shown pictures of the car in bare metal by a friend of mine and they were not pretty......... shiny paint and bling chrome work can hide a lot of things. It was very clear that expenses were spared on the metal work.


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Are you saying the Paterek's did not do a good job? I find that hard to believe given their reputation.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also know of their reputation. Perhaps the owner did now want to spend the extra $$$ to have the metal work corrected. All I know is that the car was completely restored again in Germany/Austria after it was purchased by Dr. Porsche. If I remember correctly there were also problems with the transmission. Next time I talk to my friend I will ask him the particulars.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, now that is an interesting thread. I did hear about the car returning back to Germany but knew nothing of its history. Enjoyed the photo's!

I wonder where they located the engine not many spare ones of those around I guess.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Paterek made an interesting presentation about the restoration of that Cab at the Registry's 2006 Mystic, CT, Holiday.

The hubcaps were the REAL "unobtanium" and made with a special die set to create the rings seen in the "baby moons" pictured in this thread, unfortunately making even them "unoriginal."
There were many other compromises due to worn, missing or broken parts.

I have many (film) pictures of Bob Heller (seen in his typical squatting position in one photo) taken when that rat was driven cross-country to Holidays like Indy in '77.

Later, Bob was known for offering a set price to replace the floor in your 356. The story I heard was that Bob's wife required attention to some sort of medical condition and 5014/5015 went to Stu Zeh and on to Paterek's shop for the gonzo resto. Yes, Joris, I also heard that when transferred to the museum, it was re-restored after a trans "problem" which lit the fuse.

Often, the more money poured into a restoration is the inverse of the enjoyment of the restored car. Bob Heller likely had the right idea...just drive it 'til ya can't drive it anymore.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That center seam fan shroud would seem to me to be almost in the same category as the hub caps. I've never seen one for sale, ever.
The earlier, unrestored pictues show a different engine configuration, at least with later air cleaners, an oil filter, voltage regulator, oil filler, and the more common fan shroud.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tortie wrote:
That center seam fan shroud would seem to me to be almost in the same category as the hub caps. I've never seen one for sale, ever.
The earlier, unrestored pictues show a different engine configuration, at least with later air cleaners, an oil filter, voltage regulator, oil filler, and the more common fan shroud.


When Bob Heller owned 5014, the engine in it was a 1500 Normal.
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