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Wellington Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2004 Posts: 1892 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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The red wire with white tracer seems to supply +12 volts to the fuse box.
Also add....check out the red tek thread. Terry K has been so helpfull, all the info there would apply here. Clean the lines with air brake antifreeze. |
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Howesight Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2008 Posts: 3274 Location: Vancouver, B.C.
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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wildenbeast wrote: |
This makes the most sense from the length of the hoses that I pulled from the other van. Is there a reason why I shouldn't route it as instructed?
"Cut an opening in the floor grommet in the tunnel located under the heater box and insert the condensation drain tube. Route the tube behind the R.H. heater outlet and connect to the evaporator drain".
I am wondering why you would route the drain line over the radiator and fan? Thanks for all the responses.
Bill
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I recall a "T" and an "L" fitting that connected the two and then drained out the cabin through a hose through the body. |
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I think that the instructions mean you connect a 90 degree fitting on the right side drain, a "T" fitting at the left side drain, and pass the drain hose through the same grommet that sorrounds the heater hose that goes through the firewall. From you pic, it looks like there would then be enough slope to drain the evaporator by gravity.
I did not see in your thread whether you are going to run R134A or Red Tek. I strongly suggest Red Tek to keep head pressures low and cooling performance up.
The yellow lines in the pic below show what I think the instructions are trying to tell you:
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uberhare Samba Member
Joined: July 16, 2008 Posts: 41 Location: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
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wildenbeast Samba Member
Joined: April 04, 2008 Posts: 680 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:39 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the help and comments. I have the drain line installed now as well as all the wiring, evaporator, and condensor. I still need to install the compressor and run the hoses (and 1 wire) up from the engine to the front of the van. I am starting to think more seriously on how to route the A/C vent louvers. I am looking at 3 options and would appreciate any input on why to go with one over the other.
Option 1, mount the behr a/c vent to the right of the stereo;
Option 2, mount round vents to both sides of the ashtray;
Option 3, mount the behr a/c vent in the stock stereo location and install a double din stereo / gps in the stock ashtray location. I have one of these in hand and it is the same width as a stereo receiver. I would need to cut out the bottom of it as well as the dash pad below it. I am just concerned that the double din would stick too far down and hit the heater box. If it didn't, this would be a great upgrade. Imagine it without the vent in the photo.
Any input on why one of these options might not work would be appreciated. I am leaning toward option 1 at the moment as it looks the most stock.
Bill _________________ - Bill, '93 Eurovan Syncro Weekender (2.5 manual ACU) |
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BenT Syncro Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2005 Posts: 1085 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:03 am Post subject: |
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I like option 3 w/ radio in original location. _________________ BenT |
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MarkWard Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2005 Posts: 17159 Location: Retired South Florida
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:45 am Post subject: |
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From experience, on a hot sunny day, you will need as much AC blowing directly on you as possible. We are using the factory side dash vents. You get decent air flow out the side vents, but not enough to cool the front area. It is the center vents that really do the cooling work. I don't have a behr unit, but opted to put two center vents in my radio slot. One for each passenger. The combination of the side and center vents makes it comfortable, but by no means an icebox. I am using a clarion radio with a remote head mounted to my headliner.
Center vents:
Stereo:
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BenT Syncro Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2005 Posts: 1085 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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Just curious how the stereo is anchored. I just have mental images of audio equipment missiles in the air in the event of a collision. Overhead installations brings them closer to where it might just hurt. _________________ BenT |
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MarkWard Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2005 Posts: 17159 Location: Retired South Florida
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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BenT, In an acccident, my wife, the dog and I will be burried by all our stuff. The hope is to not have an accident. The clarion stereo is from the Marine application. The peice in the picture is really just a display/controller. Less mass than a GPS. The actual unit with all the working parts is secured to the tunnel behind the center panel. The display is attached to the 30 year old wood headliner with two 5mm bolts and nuts. I think the mirror in front of it is more solidly mounted, but thank you for your concerns.
I could have mounted the display anywhere, but wanted it where I could see it while looking out the windshield but out of plain view. The stereo was an after thought. The factory stereo was removed during the AC install. I was actually looking at a SecretAudio Stereo, but it had mixed reviews. Clarion has been in the business for a long time and to hold up to a marine application made good sense for our vanagon. I was limited by the display cable length where I could mount the chassis and the head. I ran the cable up the p/s A-pillar along with new new speaker cable. Pretty tight fit. _________________ ☮️ |
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Jake de Villiers Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2007 Posts: 5911 Location: Tsawwassen, BC
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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rsxsr wrote: |
From experience, on a hot sunny day, you will need as much AC blowing directly on you as possible. We are using the factory side dash vents. You get decent air flow out the side vents, but not enough to cool the front area. It is the center vents that really do the cooling work. I don't have a behr unit, but opted to put two center vents in my radio slot. One for each passenger. The combination of the side and center vents makes it comfortable, but by no means an icebox. I am using a clarion radio with a remote head mounted to my headliner.
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I agree with this assessment. My dealer installed Behr pumps a lot of air out of the centre vents directly onto the front seat passengers. For me, mounting the stereo on top of the dash was a small price to pay to have effective AC.
It turns out that having the radio higher up makes it easier to see and operate, too. _________________ '84 Vanagon GL 1.9 WBX
'86 Westy Weekender Poptop/2.5 Subaru/5 Speed Posi/Audi Front Brakes/16 x 7 Mercedes Wheels - answers to 'Dixie'
@jakedevilliersmusic1
http://sites.google.com/site/subyjake/mydixiedarlin%27
www.crescentbeachguitar.com
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wildenbeast Samba Member
Joined: April 04, 2008 Posts: 680 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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rsxr- Is your stereo the Clarion CMS1? Does it have a CD player?
Jake - Do you have any photos of your dash with the stereo installed on top?
Thanks for the input.
Bill _________________ - Bill, '93 Eurovan Syncro Weekender (2.5 manual ACU) |
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debbiej Samba Member
Joined: December 14, 2008 Posts: 1556 Location: las cruces, nm
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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I too would love to see pictures of creative ways to mount a stereo. My behr ac is also installed with the two center vents dedicated to ac. my van dosen't have a stereo, and we are trying to think of placed to mount one. |
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MarkWard Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2005 Posts: 17159 Location: Retired South Florida
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Yes I believe it is the CMS1. Unfortunately for my wife, no CD player provision. She likes books on CD. I have to rip a audio book to a thumbdrive before we head out. The unit reads thumbdrives well. A little difficult to navigate subfolders though. Probably me.
It does have a dedicated iphone input as well as a dedicated Sirius/XM input. I have not used the iphone input, but did purchase the cable. I am using the Sirius input. It works well, the Sirius dock is mounted in the glovebox and you control it all through the Clarion head. I assume the same would be true for the iphone.
Another cool feature is it has built in weather band. When in range you can get up to date NOAA weather broadcasts. mark _________________ ☮️ |
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Jake de Villiers Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2007 Posts: 5911 Location: Tsawwassen, BC
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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wildenbeast wrote: |
rsxr- Is your stereo the Clarion CMS1? Does it have a CD player?
Jake - Do you have any photos of your dash with the stereo installed on top?
Thanks for the input.
Bill |
I have pix of the JVC up top somewhere - I'll put one online when I get a chance.
The JVC CD Receiver that I have is a terrific unit and will play almost anything you throw at it with its disc reader, stereo mini plug input and two USB ports... _________________ '84 Vanagon GL 1.9 WBX
'86 Westy Weekender Poptop/2.5 Subaru/5 Speed Posi/Audi Front Brakes/16 x 7 Mercedes Wheels - answers to 'Dixie'
@jakedevilliersmusic1
http://sites.google.com/site/subyjake/mydixiedarlin%27
www.crescentbeachguitar.com
www.thebassspa.com |
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Jake de Villiers Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2007 Posts: 5911 Location: Tsawwassen, BC
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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wildenbeast wrote: |
rsxr- Is your stereo the Clarion CMS1? Does it have a CD player?
Jake - Do you have any photos of your dash with the stereo installed on top?
Thanks for the input.
Bill |
Here's a pic of my previous Eclipse CD Receiver mounted on the dash via the dealer installed radio/cassette holder and some homemade brackets. I originally moved it up there because the CD player wouldn't work at the extreme almost vertical angle that the cassette player was mounted at. The CD player's been up top for 6 or 7 years now with no apparent ill effects.
[img][/img] _________________ '84 Vanagon GL 1.9 WBX
'86 Westy Weekender Poptop/2.5 Subaru/5 Speed Posi/Audi Front Brakes/16 x 7 Mercedes Wheels - answers to 'Dixie'
@jakedevilliersmusic1
http://sites.google.com/site/subyjake/mydixiedarlin%27
www.crescentbeachguitar.com
www.thebassspa.com |
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wildenbeast Samba Member
Joined: April 04, 2008 Posts: 680 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:45 am Post subject: |
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I have completed my install and have been working out some small kinks. Everything seems in order now. In case others want some additional photos for their own install, I added mine to a Shutterfly website. This was a BIG project that I am happy is now done! You need to scroll down to the bottom of the page; http://billwildenberg.shutterfly.com/vwsyncroweekender
Bill _________________ - Bill, '93 Eurovan Syncro Weekender (2.5 manual ACU) |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32648 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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SLOWoody Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2023 Posts: 49 Location: SLO, CA
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 1:23 pm Post subject: Re: Behr AC Thread |
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I am looking for the AC controller for a Behr in-dash AC system. I have attempted searches for this controller on the Samba and google without much luck, but my search skills seem to be lacking at times. It is listed as PN: 70 105 09 007 in the Behr part manual linked above. The actual part in my van has a PN: E 35-C01000-00 printed on it, which seems to come from an Alfa Romeo. I attempted to order from what ended up being a company in China, but all they sent was a fake pair of Ray-Ban sunglasses. Had to fight to get my money back. The small board in mine has burnt traces and seems to be stuck on full AC. Does anyone know of where I might be able to find one or is there another controller that will work? _________________ 83.5 Westfalia, GW 2.3L w/ GW EFI, 4 speed |
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16893 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 2:21 pm Post subject: Re: Behr AC Thread |
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/264829200110 _________________
gprudenciop wrote: |
my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
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Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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Crankey Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2004 Posts: 2659
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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 9:11 am Post subject: Re: Behr AC Thread |
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Hmm I'm checking what I need... everything. 🙄 including time and money. |
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16CVs Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2004 Posts: 4029 Location: Redwood City, California
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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:35 am Post subject: Re: Behr AC Thread |
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Mr SLO
Are you looking for item in the dash that the knob hooks to and is part of the front wiring harness.
A picture or better description would be great.
Stacy _________________ 1987 Syncro Westfalia Triple knob (bastard)
1989 Syncro Tristar Triple knob "Swedish"
2013 Jetta Hybrid a true "Zwitter"
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Call anytime number 650 722 4914 .
Keep Your van running and upkept tastefully for the love of the hobby.
Don't let your van end up in an "abortions" thread. |
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