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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know how bad her top is, but all I did was run my Van through the car wash twice prior to laying the penetrol on.
( No optional spray wax)

It was chaulked out almost white, no hairs were exposed.

Do (somehow) wash the top good & let it dry well prior to laying the stuff on your top.

I mentioned the car wash as an option for you --cause of the elevation issue.
That could be a pain too-
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Terry Kay wrote:

I mentioned the car wash as an option for you --cause of the elevation issue.
That could be a pain too-


Yep, good point.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTW - most car washes run a little bit of their "jet wax" into their rinse water phase - helps with the air dry.

(During HS I had a weekend job as an assistant manager at a car wash).
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not here--that's extra.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finally got this little project done.

The roof on my '90 was de-oxidized back in 2010, but it all returned in short order and got tired of looking at it when the roof was popped. Used Penetrol in the luggage rack awhile back, worked great; however, I had used Meguiar's #49 Oxidation Remover a few months prior. So, this weekend I finally got around to doing the pop-top. Penetrol alone wasn't going to cut it, and scrubbing the roof with a sponge and cleaner (as others have done) wouldn't work either:

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Sick

^That same spot after using the Oxidation Remover and a scrub brush:
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(No, the color didn't get lighter; just garage lighting & camera playing tricks.)

Left side = before work began; right side = after oxidation remover:
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(Before anyone asks: The ring is just from resting the -stopped- buffer on the roof; pad was damp with the remover cream, hence the round spot... it went away when I did that section.)

Bottom = after oxidation remover; top = after oxidation remover & Penetrol:
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Roof finally looks like new again! Dancing I'll post roof raised before/after comparison photos next weekend for the full effect.

Edit: Forgot to add the before/after comparison:

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kamz, did you use an oxidation remover like GW's Protect All? I'm inspired by your photos to try this, followed by Penetrol, on my Orly blue top also. Thanks for the pics.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Kamz, did you use an oxidation remover like GW's Protect All?


No, I didn't bother with GW's product (I've read mixed reviews about that stuff). I went straight to my local West Marine and bought this:

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I used all three on the rear (where the decal is) and it worked very well. But, that was before reading about Penetrol. Save yourself some money and buy just the #49 Oxidation Remover (OR), if you go this route. The kit works just as well as Penetrol, but you'll save yourself a step (and work/time) by not using the kit and using just the remover and Penetrol.

singler3360 wrote:
I'm inspired by your photos to try this, followed by Penetrol, on my Orly blue top also. Thanks for the pics.


I probably went a tad overboard on this job 'cuz I'm a perfectionist when it comes to this kind of stuff. Laughing I wanted that roof positively clean before applying the Penetrol. I first applied the OR as directed using rags, but then I applied it to each section a second time using a soft-bristled scrub brush to it to get into the "valleys" of the roof's texture.

Oh, and if you don't use gloves when applying/removing the OR, prepare to turn into a temporary Smurf. Wink Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did a layer of Penetrol on mine, could use another, but also realized that it could use another scrub kind of clean first after I started, but I'd just washed it...It is PRETTY! Well, minus all the scratches, dents and imperfections! LOL

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Thanks for the cheap suggestion and fun in the sun everyone!

tam

Oh, and I use a mop to wash the top half & pop top of the Vanagon, never thought of the car wash, do that by hand and w/ my mop. Will get dh to use the scrub brush first next time. He seems to enjoy this shining stuff and helped wax too. He has no problem reaching!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks pretty good from 60 ft---

Get an entire coat of the penetrol on the whole top, let it sit a couple of hours, and do it one more time just for the heck of it.

It'll look right fine--you'll be plenty happy with the end result.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only 60ft? I thought it looked great at 6! LOL WAY better that's for sure! Of course I did the entire top, that was the half way picture to show how much better it looked!

Only so much time you know, want to take those seats off and clean/lube them first, but have to do some sort of Easter Egg thing w/ my kids for some reason. Will do another coat of Penetrol when I wash it next time, making sure to scrub it better and then put another coat of NuFinish on it too.

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Looks pretty good from 60 ft---

Get an entire coat of the penetrol on the whole top, let it sit a couple of hours, and do it one more time just for the heck of it.

It'll look right fine--you'll be plenty happy with the end result.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nu-Finish not required, and not suggested on top of the Penetrol--

The Penetrol all by itself will work quite well---
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, did that. Penetrol on fiberglass and NuFinish on paint. Sorry, I wasn't clear, but thanks for pointing it out anyway, never know what I might do by mistake! Wink

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Nu-Finish not required, and not suggested on top of the Penetrol--

The Penetrol all by itself will work quite well---

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having a whitevWesty, I didn't want to use Penetrol, which can yellow. I did a good scrub and applied T3, with great results. Some got rained off before it fully set, so I may do a 2nd coat, but looks great now.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used Penetrol a few years back with good results.
My pop top was looking pretty grimey so this past
weekend I washed, and then scrubbed with Simple
Green and finally rinsed with the pressure washer.
Now to apply the Penetrol and I should be good
for a couple more years.
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On another note anyone ever clean up under the pop
top? I cleaned probably 20+ years of dirt off this too,
this past weekend. Simple Green and a pressure washer!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put my first coat of Penetrol on a little thick in spots and the appearance is obviously uneven. Is it possible to sand/remove some the thicker spots before I apply a second coat? Does a second coat normally even out the unevenness, or do I have to lie in the bed I've made?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone know if the Penetrol sold at HD is the same stuff?

thanks

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lifted1 wrote:
anyone know if the Penetrol sold at HD is the same stuff?

thanks

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Flood-Penetrol-1-Qt-Cle...d=penetrol


That's the stuff.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kamzcab86 wrote:
singler3360 wrote:
Kamz, did you use an oxidation remover like GW's Protect All?


No, I didn't bother with GW's product (I've read mixed reviews about that stuff). I went straight to my local West Marine and bought this:

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I used all three on the rear (where the decal is) and it worked very well. But, that was before reading about Penetrol. Save yourself some money and buy just the #49 Oxidation Remover (OR), if you go this route. The kit works just as well as Penetrol, but you'll save yourself a step (and work/time) by not using the kit and using just the remover and Penetrol.


x2 on the Maguirs. I used all three and have been really happy with the result. My poptop was gnarly!

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I found this stuff around the house, and used it to clean the top first.

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I think it was still wet when I took this (it looks even in real life), but you can tell a big difference!

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I should note that I also bought the special drill-mounted circular foam pads that maguirs sells for applying this stuff. ...not sure how necessary it really was, but it made the job go quicker.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did another coat of Penetrol today. Was *just* warm enough to wash and Nufinish it and then, add some Penetrol on the top!

Will have to wait and see how it looks next week to see if I need to do a 2nd coat....But, while I was up there, I noticed that my stickers, on their last leg of death prior anyway, are now dying a faster sad death since I've added the Penetrol. They seem to have dissolved in spots. Could certainly be age, but thought I'd point it out since while my stickers are original, yours may not be and you may not want to replace yours when skipping the Penetrol in that spot might do.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grabbed a can of Penetrol to use on my faded pop-top. I did a little test square over the weekend and was amazed by the results...can't wait to clean-up the entire top and get it shiny again.

Question: currently my pop-top has no Westfalia decals. Should I put the decals on before doing the Penetrol or will it be cool to do it after? Just wondering if the Penetrol will prevent the decals from sticking to the fiberglass top?

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