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kenshapiro2002 Samba Member

Joined: April 26, 2013 Posts: 1826 Location: Bawlmer Hon
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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:07 am Post subject: |
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| You are very welcome. This was something I was looking for two months ago when I decided to replace my floors. The only things I could find were bits and pieces of other peoples build threads, and the information on doing the floors was not very detailed. |
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Big Bill Samba Member
Joined: June 21, 2005 Posts: 1818 Location: Fortuna Calif.
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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes ditto on the thank you Ken. Looks very nice and the thread itself has given me a few tips I will use. Could you post a few pictures of the area were the front part of the wheel well meets the floor, mine is going to need a little help there like yours did. Thanks again |
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kenshapiro2002 Samba Member

Joined: April 26, 2013 Posts: 1826 Location: Bawlmer Hon
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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Big Bill wrote: |
| Yes ditto on the thank you Ken. Looks very nice and the thread itself has given me a few tips I will use. Could you post a few pictures of the area were the front part of the wheel well meets the floor, mine is going to need a little help there like yours did. Thanks again |
I did quite a bit of work in that area where the cancer had spread upward above the floor. I fabricated (and I'm a total rookie with metal) that few inches in a few places. In retrospect, I might have bought some funky green seat pedestal parts because of the contours. As it is, I'm pretty happy with the work I did in there. I'll post something tomorrow. |
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&Dan Samba Member

Joined: January 29, 2008 Posts: 1787
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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Aces! Nice job. |
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kenshapiro2002 Samba Member

Joined: April 26, 2013 Posts: 1826 Location: Bawlmer Hon
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:00 am Post subject: |
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| Big Bill wrote: |
| Yes ditto on the thank you Ken. Looks very nice and the thread itself has given me a few tips I will use. Could you post a few pictures of the area were the front part of the wheel well meets the floor, mine is going to need a little help there like yours did. Thanks again |
Bill, your best avenue is to check out this other thread of mine where I was doing my first welds ever. On pages 2 & 3, you can see examples of where I patched up that area, and also where another member, gave up doing it that way and patched in some Gerson pieces:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5...p;start=20 |
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kenshapiro2002 Samba Member

Joined: April 26, 2013 Posts: 1826 Location: Bawlmer Hon
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:03 am Post subject: |
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Just HAD to prime and paint a little...just to sooth my soul and give me a great big freakin' smile. Still need to do some small "finishing " patch work to make it prettier (not too much), and seal everything up for longevity. At my age (60) I'm guessing this new work will still outlast me.
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zuggbug Samba Member

Joined: June 17, 2008 Posts: 3505 Location: Anderson SC
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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Great job...thanks for sharing _________________ SOUTHERN INTEGRITY AIRCOOLERS
58 15 window
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zimblewinder Samba Member

Joined: January 22, 2004 Posts: 900 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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I have the same process only I use pop rivets to pull the plug weld line together. As long as the area behind isn't blind I just drill the heads out and push out the rest before I weld. Fairly quick.
Cheers
Dale _________________ 58Euro 23 343208 The Ultimate Zimblewinder Machine.
59 mango standard
Wanted- splash pan supports, og pressed bumper coach bolts, ivory blaupunkt knobs (early), armrest alloy strips, NOS door mechanism |
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kenshapiro2002 Samba Member

Joined: April 26, 2013 Posts: 1826 Location: Bawlmer Hon
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:24 am Post subject: |
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Using POR 15 Filler / Seam Sealer on the edges, over the welds, etc. VERY pleased with how it fills, dries and hardens. Supposed to take 4 days for a total cure. About $15 a tube and had enough to do more than the floor...top and bottom. It also does the same trick on any rust it hits as regular POR 15.
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mandraks Samba Member

Joined: November 28, 2004 Posts: 7125 Location: Lawrenceville, Ga
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:00 am Post subject: |
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if you put some tape down before you put the sealer on, you get really nice looking seams _________________ regards
Uli
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'53 3-Fold Oval, L35 Metallic Blue, looking for a narrow hatch panel |
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kenshapiro2002 Samba Member

Joined: April 26, 2013 Posts: 1826 Location: Bawlmer Hon
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:03 am Post subject: |
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| mandraks wrote: |
| if you put some tape down before you put the sealer on, you get really nice looking seams |
Nice point. Even though I'm pretty OCD, I'll survive this one since it'll be under a mat and only a driver...not a show car. |
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nice dad Samba Member

Joined: July 25, 2013 Posts: 318 Location: Kula, Maui
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Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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Well you inspired me to take my rusted floor pan out. I just want to mention how I removed the Cab Heater Tube Assembly.
I ground down a total of 5 welds (@ B & D) and popped out (according to your drawing) sections 2 & 3 as one piece. Tapped the tube down and out with no problems.
Thanks
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kenshapiro2002 Samba Member

Joined: April 26, 2013 Posts: 1826 Location: Bawlmer Hon
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Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Great! If you leave the e-brake assembly in, like I did, you'll need to remove the upright section if the heater tube as well to fit and install the new floor... Not difficult. I'm installing the steering column and various pedals this week. My new found skills and confidence will have me attacking the right side rocker, B-pillar and surrounding area soon. After the floor, these other jobs seems almost easy. |
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nice dad Samba Member

Joined: July 25, 2013 Posts: 318 Location: Kula, Maui
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Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:52 am Post subject: |
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| kenshapiro2002 wrote: |
| Great! If you leave the e-brake assembly in, like I did, you'll need to remove the upright section if the heater tube as well to fit and install the new floor... Not difficult. I'm installing the steering column and various pedals this week. My new found skills and confidence will have me attacking the right side rocker, B-pillar and surrounding area soon. After the floor, these other jobs seems almost easy. |
Yeah that E-brake is a Mad Dog to get out, that pin is rust welded to the handle. Might have to just bust out the sazall and see what happens. _________________ 1967 Single Cab |
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kenshapiro2002 Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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| kenshapiro2002 wrote: |
| Great! If you leave the e-brake assembly in, like I did, you'll need to remove the upright section if the heater tube as well to fit and install the new floor... Not difficult. I'm installing the steering column and various pedals this week. My new found skills and confidence will have me attacking the right side rocker, B-pillar and surrounding area soon. After the floor, these other jobs seems almost easy. |
Yeah that E-brake is a Mad Dog to get out, that pin is rust welded to the handle. Might have to just bust out the sazall and see what happens. |
Nah...leave it in. That's what I did. You'll just have to remove the upright section of the heater tube to get the floor in...slips right over the e-brake handle. |
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kenshapiro2002 Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:05 am Post subject: |
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Finally got the correct paint. I'm finished other than reassembly of ancillary stuff. VERY pleased with the results and that this job is over!
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Bulli Klinik Samba Member

Joined: January 16, 2005 Posts: 2240 Location: Bulli Klinik, Colorado Springs
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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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Nice job! I just caught up with the thread since commenting on it at the beginning. You can really gain an appreciation of what's involved once you actually do one.
How about a couple of before after pics to really see the difference?
Congrats! _________________ PM me about quality metal-work on your vehicle.
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kenshapiro2002 Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Mt "Befores" are on page #1. |
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kenshapiro2002 Samba Member

Joined: April 26, 2013 Posts: 1826 Location: Bawlmer Hon
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:45 pm Post subject: Gerston's Hole Isn't Where It Should Be ! |
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Trying to reinstall the steering column today and just couldn't do it. First problem was the hole was 30mm and the column is 32mm. Then, still couldn't get the bus high enough off the ground to get the column back in. Brett tells me that on 2 of the 4 floors he's bought from Gerston, he had to move the column hole rearward 1/2"...that Gerston has moved the placement of the hole multiple times (waiting for a call back from Gerston), and still has complaints from folks. I'm not upset, these things are always gonna need tweaking.
My plan is to cut a horizontal box out around the hole, off set to be 1/2" deeper to the aft end. Hopefully, I'll just be able to swing the piece around 180ยบ and have it right. Chances are I'll still have some "fudging" to do. |
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Gerson Samba Member

Joined: January 23, 2004 Posts: 1828 Location: Jupiter Fl
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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this is the first I hear of this with the steering column......we are checking right now what the hell is going on....  _________________ that's not patina, that's fucking rust man!!!!
we (klassicfab) make the funky green panels........... |
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