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gtroan Samba Member
Joined: July 03, 2015 Posts: 2 Location: Orlando, Florida
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:32 pm Post subject: Generator Fan Bolt binds as it tightens |
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Putting a new alternator in a 73 beetle. When I try to re torque the alternator fan nut, it binds once it is halfway on. I'm afraid to torque it too hard for fear of crossthreading the bolt, but it doesn't appear to be crossthreaded.
Are the designed to bind as they tighten?
Also, does the dished washer go on convex or concave surface against the fan? |
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Cusser Samba Member

Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 33423 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 3:08 pm Post subject: Re: Generator Fan Bolt binds as it tightens |
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| gtroan wrote: |
| Putting a new alternator in a 73 beetle. When I try to re torque the alternator fan nut, it binds once it is halfway on. I'm afraid to torque it too hard for fear of crossthreading the bolt, but it doesn't appear to be crossthreaded. Are the designed to bind as they tighten? |
The nut should thread on easily until it starts compressing the big spring washer. If you try without the washer (as an experiment), does it thread on more?
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| does the dished washer go on convex or concave surface against the fan? |
concave against the fan
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runamoc  Samba Member

Joined: June 19, 2006 Posts: 6374 Location: 37.5N 77.1W
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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40 - 47 ft/lbs on both front and rear 'nuts' is required. Shims are required between the fan and the hub for a .080 of clearance between the fan's outer edge and the cover. |
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kreemoweet Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| cusser wrote: |
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That is not correct. The "concave" side of the washer is the side the two sides of the washer bend TOWARD. That side
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Cusser Samba Member

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runamoc  Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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| I think the washer will actually flatten and provide tension against the nut and fan either way. |
The way you are saying to do it, Cusser, makes it harder to line up the oval shape of the washer hole with the oval shape of the hub extension. The bottom side of the nut has a groove cut into for the 'ears' of the curved washer to fit. Putting the oval on the hub first with the 'ears' pointing towards the nut guarantees the oval will stay lined up. Besides, that's the way the Bentley book says to do it too. |
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Cusser Samba Member

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