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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 8:47 am    Post subject: Westfalia Pop Top Reply with quote

When recently installing a new canvas for my pop top I noticed that the fiberglass is deteriorating ( it is also stained with dirt that doesn't want to come out). The first solution I thought of was while back I was at an air cooled car show and a guy there had painted his pop top or put some kind of coating on it to make it smooth and look brand new. Is painting or putting a protective coating on pop tops a common thing? And what should I use as a coating?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have three choices:

1) If its not to far gone and it needs to be "spruced up" some of us have painted it with Rustoleum White. Its a urethane based paint that will coat it with a protective white paint for sure. But it will do nothing to fix broken or deteriorated fiberglass.

2) Take it to a shop that can gel coat the fiberglass again. Boat shops near you? People that repair that kind of stuff? This is by far the best route in top restoration - but you will pay $.

3) Find a good used one in better shape near you.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used interlux bright sides off-white for mine. Rolled it on and tipped it with a brush. Looks and holding up great after 5 years.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard of many folks having good luck with the interlux. That's what I'm going to do when winter goes away.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1968 - 1973 Werksfalia Fiberglass pop top / Luggage rack cure all right here:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1244118
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Werks, do you repop the late style tops? 74-79?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At 2k - for a 68-73 top is a bit pricey - and no Stew - I don't see a new 74-79 top listed.

I'm all about getting yours and the American dream - but the 2k price for new repop is a lot to pay - Are we banking that the Bay comes up in value? Because that may happen. And your investment on making new tops may pay off?

In a market where people give tops away - getting 2k seems like a stretch. Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No '74- '79 (might also go into the Vanagon years too) Bus LR / pop tops as that would take another year of my time, $8-$9K in investment of FG plugs, then the ma$ter mold$ and then the costs to produce them.....

These are tons better made than the originals. Hand made in the USA.

But retail buyers see a Fiberglass products and expect we just mix up resins and viola... we have a FG product! Wink

When I started research which years range to make, most everyone wanted the 68-73's as they have the most problems in their designs. Plus I had 20+ people wanting them.

In the +3 years I have offer them for sale, I have sold 3 sets. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for all the replies, ill look into the Rustoleum White and interlux solution. the pop top in that ad looked identical to the one i saw at the car show.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used a marine-grade epoxy on mine after pressure washing and bleaching it. Can't remember the brand, but I grabbed it at my FLMPS (Friendly Local Marine Parts Supplier) for probably under $30 for a gallon.

It's basically the same stuff you would use to paint a fiberglass boat.

It's some uber-strong stuff, too. The drips on my concrete from the job are still there and hard as a damn rock.

Top came out looking damn near brand new, too --except for some areas that could use some sanding and another coat.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used Interlux Briteside on my mossy, chalky and fuzzy pop top. I sanded the entire top, the paint rolled on well and sealed in the fiberglass strands. Bright and shiny.
For about 3 years.
It is once again chalky and delaminating. And Interlux is more like $40/quart at West Marine.
In the next year or two I will be sanding it down once again and going with Rustoleum Bright White oil-based paint.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

werksberg wrote:
No '74- '79 (might also go into the Vanagon years too) Bus LR / pop tops as that would take another year of my time, $8-$9K in investment of FG plugs, then the ma$ter mold$ and then the costs to produce them.....

These are tons better made than the originals. Hand made in the USA.

But retail buyers see a Fiberglass products and expect we just mix up resins and viola... we have a FG product! Wink

When I started research which years range to make, most everyone wanted the 68-73's as they have the most problems in their designs. Plus I had 20+ people wanting them.

In the +3 years I have offer them for sale, I have sold 3 sets. Rolling Eyes



Ahh the old bait and switch dooshbaggery of the ACVW owner. Hype you up to make a thing - not ever really committing to buy the thing Wink Sorry to hear thats what happened in the end. Whenever we had things made for the early Type 3's we took down payments. Then after it's made and distributed - its fun to see the price double, triple for those willing to sell the spares they bought up front. Sucks if you don't have the $ on hand - but then again if you want nice things in life you need to have $ on hand Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

notchboy wrote:
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No '74- '79 (might also go into the Vanagon years too) Bus LR / pop tops as that would take another year of my time, $8-$9K in investment of FG plugs, then the ma$ter mold$ and then the costs to produce them.....

These are tons better made than the originals. Hand made in the USA.

But retail buyers see a Fiberglass products and expect we just mix up resins and viola... we have a FG product! Wink

When I started research which years range to make, most everyone wanted the 68-73's as they have the most problems in their designs. Plus I had 20+ people wanting them.

In the +3 years I have offer them for sale, I have sold 3 sets. Rolling Eyes



Ahh the old bait and switch dooshbaggery of the ACVW owner. Hype you up to make a thing - not ever really committing to buy the thing Wink Sorry to hear thats what happened in the end. Whenever we had things made for the early Type 3's we took down payments. Then after it's made and distributed - its fun to see the price double, triple for those willing to sell the spares they bought up front. Sucks if you don't have the $ on hand - but then again if you want nice things in life you need to have $ on hand Wink


Yep and it's not the first time I have done this as the "nice guy" that I am.

I asked the split Bus crowd (insiders and retail customers) if they would be willing to pay around $1,500 for a brand spanking new Westy small (euro early bays too) FB Pop top, hinges and seal... "Naw, maybe if it was $500 or so yes." And those split Buses are selling for $20K+ as rusted and non running shells? Go figure.... Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

Nick that idea....
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would think that the turret top - as a complete unit - tent, brackets and all would be a seller to some degree. Even to overseas buyers that do not hesitate to put new, retro looking stuff on a bus.

Sorry to hear that you got caught in the "ACVW Hobbyist cheap ass bastard" zone ; )

Not all of them - but most of them.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:32 am    Post subject: Westfalia Pop Top Reply with quote

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Strange, I have never seen a rear set of hinges go bad. I have a set of used ones. I have never sold any. I don't buy them anymore!
Now the 68-72 hinges...... those pieces of crap are a whole different story.
The 73's are much better and you can use on 69 to 72's.
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