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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not the best at describing things so please bear with me on that point Sad
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll re-phrase my suggestion. Disconnect and clean every connection, especially where there is rust. Make sure that you are grounded to clean or shiny metal.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok will do
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:41 pm    Post subject: Re: back up lights Reply with quote

old DKP driver wrote:
There are 2 phillips screws that hold the Switch and,it is adjustable.
Also, the brass contact on the Shift lever is usually the problem
Losing contact.And it is spring loaded.
Pull the cover back off and Gently push the lever sideways while in
reverse.Key on Engine OFF.

Do you have someone to look at the lights while you move the lever?

If not, Loosen the the screws and move the switch closer to the contact
on the lever.
Be gentle tightening the screws or you will split the plastic.


Just fixed my reverse lights today, thanks for the tip. Here are the steps I followed, whether they are wrong, right or indifferent, it fixed my problems.

Step 1. Checked the obvious fuse in fuse box being its an auto tranny
Step 2. Checked the bulbs
Step 3. Removed Auto Shifter housing and took pictures.
Step 4. Removed all wires to plastic switch and cleaned.
Step 5. Loosened switch just a tad. Moved switch a hair closer to contact
Step 6. Cleaned contacts on switch and pryed out a tad with a knife.
Step 7. Smiled at my working tail lights and the money saved to buy some more beer
Step 8. While drinking my beer order new switch from German Supply
http://www.germansupply.com/home/customer/product.php?productid=17419&cat=&page=1
Step 9. Finish watching Broncos game

Steps 7-9 are not necessary
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know this is an old post and i own a 91 vanagon, so i searched and searched and came across this thread. My reverse lights aren't working, i checked the fuse and it's fine installed brand new bulbs and it's not working.... So it's time to test the reverse switch, do you guys happen to know where the switch is located for a 91auto vanagon
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First place I'd look is in the shifter up front, usually it's part of the neutral start switch.
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2016 12:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Automatic Transmission Reverse Light Question Reply with quote

kerian159 wrote:
I know i've already been down this road on this forum but i'm still having difficulty with the reverse lights. I've tested the relay to the best of my knowledge with a test light by running it from the 50A connection to the RF connection and no lights on the test light, but it is going into reverse when selected. Is there a fuse of some kind somewhere that I have looked over? I'm using this wiring guide. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/wiring/baybus_76_supplement.jpg


ToolBox wrote:
First verify that fuse S12 is good. If good. Pull the cover off the shifter and check for power in (15) and out (RF) of the switch.


kerian159 wrote:
I've connected a test light across those pins and it did not light up the lights. I'm going to check them a bit more this evening. Looking at the fuse my brake lights and horn work fine and I believe they are on the same fuse.


kerian159 wrote:
looking at that wiring diagram does it jump from fuse 12 to fuse 11?
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2016 12:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Automatic Transmission Reverse Light Question Reply with quote

I didn't think to reopen the topic on this topic. Sad This has been one of those little gremlin problems that hasn't really been an issue with more important problems coming first, but with most of those problems having been dealt with i'm jumping back into this problem.
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2016 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

busdaddy wrote:
First place I'd look is in the shifter up front, usually it's part of the neutral start switch.


Can't find a better pic
This is what you are looking for. Under the shifter cover.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4670088#4670088

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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2016 3:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Automatic Transmission Reverse Light Question Reply with quote

Strange question. I just checked the voltage coming out at the bulb locations and i'm getting anywhere from 9v to 13v depending on if I have the key on or not. Should I be getting voltage with the key off at the bulb connections?
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2016 12:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Automatic Transmission Reverse Light Question Reply with quote

anything?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Automatic Transmission Reverse Light Question Reply with quote

OK I've done some more digging and I think I've figured out my problem. The metal piece that goes between the two points is pretty messed up(pic attached). Does my logic sound good to you guys and where can I get a replacement piece? I took the wires out of the plastic bit and connected them together and they came on like they're supposed to, which to my mind points back to the metal bit.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 8:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Automatic Transmission Reverse Light Question Reply with quote

#12 311 927 147 B park neutral position switch.
SGKent wrote:
it is a safety item and it also keeps you from damaging the flex plate accidently. I would replace it.

Look like this?

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http://www.germansupply.com/home/customer/product.php?productid=17419&cat=295&page=2

http://www.evwparts.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Scr...e=ACSwitch

http://busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=311927147B

maybe this one at napa?
http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Detail.aspx?R=ECHNS6827_0168435407


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#14 211 919 265 park neutral contact.
https://www.mecatechnic.com/en-GB/211919265-contac...059026.htm
https://www.vwheritage.com/vw.cfm?act=vwclassicPar...mp;lang=EN

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Automatic Transmission Reverse Light Question Reply with quote

Bull Shit .
The contacts on the shifter lever have 0 to due with damaging the flex plate.

The parts are worn and that's the problem period!

I replaced quite a few of these when the vehicles were only 4-5 years old.

Neutral safety switch problems are common on ALL old cars.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 5:04 am    Post subject: Re: Automatic Transmission Reverse Light Question Reply with quote

Ok the switch contact I believe is the problem not the actual switch itself (note second picture). I've got a friend looking into a 411/412 automatic colomn to see if it has the same parts. Part #211919265 is what i'm looking for I think.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 7:38 am    Post subject: Re: Automatic Transmission Reverse Light Question Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:28 am    Post subject: Re: Automatic Transmission Reverse Light Question Reply with quote

yes I understand that is the part #. my question is do you think that is my problem? I don't really want to order the part and it not fix the problem.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:50 am    Post subject: Re: Automatic Transmission Reverse Light Question Reply with quote

kerian159 wrote:
yes I understand that is the part #. my question is do you think that is my problem? I don't really want to order the part and it not fix the problem.

May not be the problem, but that thing is worn out.

To test the switch.
Hook the wires back up to the switch and run a screwdriver across the two contacts and see if the lights come on. Lights come on the switch is good.

To test the contact.
Use an ohm meter and measure the resistance between #14 211 919 265 park neutral contact, the one that is all worn out and the shifter. There should be no continuity (contact) between the brass rubbing block and the shifter.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:21 am    Post subject: Re: Automatic Transmission Reverse Light Question Reply with quote

I will do some more testing hopefully soon. Any ideas on how to get the neutral contact off the gear selector so I can attempt to rebuild it? Does it just slide up and off the shifter?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:38 am    Post subject: Re: Automatic Transmission Reverse Light Question Reply with quote

why not try to find a new one and that may be a clue how it comes off. It shows up available in a Google search. You may have to call on it in case it is actually NLA.

http://www.busdepot.com/211919265

https://www.vwheritage.com/vw.cfm?act=vwclassicPar...mp;lang=EN

http://www.volkswagen-classic-parts.de/kontaktgeber-t2-automatik.html
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