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starstam Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:17 am Post subject: Vw beetle 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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Im new in the forum.
I would like to ask a question about split VW.
I have seen one that is around 1946-1947 that has a number at a tunnel under the gear lever that goes like "-TK- 005..."
Does anyone here know what does this number represent ?
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady

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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:28 am Post subject: Re: 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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starstam wrote: |
Im new in the forum.
I would like to ask a question about split VW.
I have seen one that is around 1946-1947 that has a number at a tunnel under the gear lever that goes like "-TK- 005..."
Does anyone here know what does this number represent ? |
Likely what is called the "frame number"
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/bugchassisdating.php |
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starstam Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:35 am Post subject: Re: 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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The whole number is -TK- 007529
Its not included in the numbers at the link u sent.
The frame number is at the front where the extra wheel is and its 1-055147.
Which is included at the table.
Do u know what this TK is supposed to be ?
thanks a lot |
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady

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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:16 pm Post subject: Re: 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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starstam wrote: |
The whole number is -TK- 007529
Its not included in the numbers at the link u sent.
The frame number is at the front where the extra wheel is and its 1-055147.
Which is included at the table.
Do u know what this TK is supposed to be ?
thanks a lot |
1-055147 would be the body number (May 1949)
Or if you are talking about one stamped in the plate behind the spare wheel, then that's the VIN for a 46. |
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starstam Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: Vw beetle 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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Thank a lot for all the help but im still not covered.
I will try to be more clear.
Firstly, there is a small plate behind the spare wheel with the number 1-055147 and some other info. Which after research i concluded that is a beetle of 1946.
Secondly there is an also the number -TK- 007529 at a tunnel under the gear lever which i can find out what does it represent.?? Anyone knows what this number may indicate?
Also nlorntson how did u concluded that 1-055147 would be the body number (May 1949) ?
Thanks a lot again |
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady

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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:08 pm Post subject: Re: 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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nlorntson wrote: |
Or if you are talking about one stamped in the plate behind the spare wheel, then that's the VIN for a 1946. |
I have a very similar stamping on my 49 tunnel and the number matches with the frame numbers listed in the chassis dating reference above.
Thus my suggestion that you are asking about a number (TK...) that is known as a frame number.
The number stamped in the plate mounted behind the spare wheel is the VIN
Any number directly stamped in the sheetmetal below that plate is the body number.
Maybe show us a picture. |
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usariemen Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:14 pm Post subject: Re: 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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nlorntson wrote: |
1-055147 would be the body number (May 1949)
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1-055147 sounds more like a VIN or chassis number of 1946.
Doesn´t it?
A body number does not have the 1- in front. _________________ Master of my domain! |
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usariemen Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:19 pm Post subject: Re: Vw beetle 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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Any picture posted of the numbers will tell soon what it is and if it is something original. _________________ Master of my domain! |
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starstam Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:21 pm Post subject: Re: Vw beetle 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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These are the 2 numbers described above!
Why are they different?? Do they have to match?? |
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady

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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:19 pm Post subject: Re: 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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usariemen wrote: |
nlorntson wrote: |
1-055147 would be the body number (May 1949)
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1-055147 sounds more like a VIN or chassis number of 1946.
Doesn´t it?
A body number does not have the 1- in front. |
Yeah, long day. I misspoke in that earlier post |
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady

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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:21 pm Post subject: Re: Vw beetle 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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starstam wrote: |
These are the 2 numbers described above!
Why are they different?? Do they have to match?? |
No. They don't have to match.
Is there a number under the rear seat on the tunnel? |
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starstam Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: Vw beetle 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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No there is no number under the rear seat. I read that so old beetles werent supossed to have such a number. Correct me if my wrong.
I guess i can say its an original 1946 beetle is there anything else i can check??
Guys i realy appreciate all your help till now! |
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virtanen Samba Member

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usariemen Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:15 pm Post subject: Re: Vw beetle 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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The rivets on the tag in your front end look unmolested.
So this should be the original one to the car.
The 1-055147 would be then the VIN number of thje car.
That is a number that would be from 1946 if we look at the records.
This tag obviously is stamped in 1947.
Those where unsteady times. You will not find out but it is possible the car got the number in 1946 but was for what ever reasons finished in 1947 and got the tag finally then.
The same number should be found on the tunnel inside the car as well.
Below the tag there should be the body number stamped directly into the metal panel. Is there something?
Where exactely is the -KT .. number located? _________________ Master of my domain! |
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starstam Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:46 am Post subject: Re: Vw beetle 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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The number with the TK is stamped on the tunnel between the gear lever and the hand break. Hope this helps. It does not have number under the rear seats. |
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virtanen Samba Member

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usariemen Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 6:18 am Post subject: Re: Vw beetle 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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OK
So that means the original chassis was swapped for an other one wich got a new number. the KT one.
Would be interesting to see if the current chassis is of the same age. _________________ Master of my domain! |
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starstam Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 6:30 am Post subject: Re: Vw beetle 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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After a deep cleaning i found that there is a number under the rear seats that fits the number behind the spare wheel. What do we suggest now? That the spare part is something between the hand break and the gear lever? |
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Dimitrios Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 9:25 am Post subject: Re: Vw beetle 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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Looks like an awesome find
Please post some pics if you like!
This is the 3rd pre 1950 vw beetle in Greece as far as I know and possibly the oldest... _________________ Used Porsche 911 & VW 091 & 094 transaxles!!! |
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Martin Southwell Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 4:11 pm Post subject: Re: Vw beetle 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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About 10/15 years ago, a 1945 Beetle from Greece came to the UK to be restored, and a friend made the carpets for it. It was all very hush, hush, as the owner was secretive, and whether the same person owns it today I don't know. It certainly existed, as do the photos during its restoration, which show it looking very nice, in a military green colour. The same friend is making a carpet set for my 47, and we wondered if there were any real differences between the two years. I don't think anybody really knows for sure, althouh some might claim to do so. |
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