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airschooled Air-Schooled
Joined: April 04, 2012 Posts: 12761 Location: on a bike ride somewhere
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:05 am Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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Hey folks, I'm away from my bus for two weeks, and I'm brainstorming a new interior layout, not made of cardboard this time! Can anyone measure a walkthrough mat, or even the walkthrough WIDTH for me? I believe it tapers, yes?
Thanks!
Robbie _________________ Learn how your vintage VW works. And why it doesn't!
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Angus II Samba Member
Joined: June 01, 2016 Posts: 708 Location: Mammoth Lakes Ca. 93546
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:42 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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Hello,
My 71 walk through measures 15 1/2" wide, front and back by 28 1/4" long.
The mat is 15 3/8 at front, I can't get a measurement at back for my rearward seat and icebox/sink is in the way.
But, it does not seem to taper(the opening) just the mat as it raps around the radius of the back of the seats(bulk heads), it's not a 90 degree corner.
I can post a picture if you like?. |
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Angus II Samba Member
Joined: June 01, 2016 Posts: 708 Location: Mammoth Lakes Ca. 93546
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:19 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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Hello,
Here are some pictures of the walk through mat area.
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51249 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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You forgot to ask your question. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
Please don't PM technical questions, ask your problem in public so everyone can play along. If you think it's too stupid post it here
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Angus II Samba Member
Joined: June 01, 2016 Posts: 708 Location: Mammoth Lakes Ca. 93546
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:02 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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Hello,
He did, "I believe it tapers, yes?"
Looks like a question in my book. |
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maz-o Samba Member
Joined: February 21, 2017 Posts: 79 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:33 am Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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maz-o wrote: |
Is it okay to put liquid sealant glue (eg. permatex aviation) under any paper gaskets that go against the block?
examples: oil pump, oil sump plate, fuel pump stand, alternator stand.
I've understood that where there's two gaskets (all of the above mentioned) the "outer most" should be put dry? is that the case?
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Bumping this. No thoughts?
Or should I post it in the engine specific forum?
Cheers. |
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Volswagon Samba Member
Joined: December 29, 2009 Posts: 299 Location: Knoxville, TN
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:25 am Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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The oil pump is the critical one of the group you mentioned. Fuel pump less so.
Everything else is holding crankcase pressure. It has been said that paper gaskets went out with sword fighting. Consider how much cleanup work there will be the next time you take it apart.
Sealant should be used sparingly on metal surfaces which have been damaged over the years. Synthetic oils tend to leak more easily.
Curil T never fully hardens and spreads thinly. Permatex is useful. _________________ I know the pieces fit, cos I watched them fall away.
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50414
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:23 am Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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maz-o wrote: |
maz-o wrote: |
Is it okay to put liquid sealant glue (eg. permatex aviation) under any paper gaskets that go against the block?
examples: oil pump, oil sump plate, fuel pump stand, alternator stand.
I've understood that where there's two gaskets (all of the above mentioned) the "outer most" should be put dry? is that the case?
thanks |
Bumping this. No thoughts?
Or should I post it in the engine specific forum?
Cheers. |
A high quality RTV silicone works well for the sealing of the items that bolt to the case. For the oil pump cover you need something that can handle the pressure, the use of a gasket under the cover may or may not be necessary depending on the end play of the gears. Sealant by itself is just fine if you need to reduce the end play. |
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Tcash Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2011 Posts: 12844 Location: San Jose, California, USA
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:21 am Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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[quote="maz-o"]
maz-o wrote: |
Is it okay to put liquid sealant glue (eg. permatex aviation) under any paper gaskets that go against the block?
examples: oil pump, oil sump plate, fuel pump stand, alternator stand.
I've understood that where there's two gaskets (all of the above mentioned) the "outer most" should be put dry? is that the case?
thanks |
Permatex Aviation is not a glue.
Permatex Aviation Instructions
Use brush to apply a thin, even coat to each surface. Allow to air-dry a few minutes before fastening the parts into position. If thinning is necessary, add 188 proof denatured alcohol. For use on most types of gaskets, machined surfaces and screw thread connections of airplane and automobile engines.
Non hardening.
Can be used on most gaskets. That is kind of weak, but I am sure paper gaskets will be ok.
Note: the instructions say to let it air dry. So it is not running, all through your oil passages like honey molasses.
It will work for what you want to use it for.
Hypomer Universal Blue. Is used in the car manufacturing industry.
http://hylomar.com/hylomar-product-range/gasket-jointing-compounds/
Good luck
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maz-o Samba Member
Joined: February 21, 2017 Posts: 79 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:31 am Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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Is this what's usually refferred as 88mm P&C on various parts sites?
Piston says 87.93. Barrel says Mahle.
Seems unevenly worn both on the pistons and barrels. And they also leaked against the block.
Would it be best to replace these and go back to stock 85.5mm? Or hone/lap them and get new 88mm rings?
I've heard these bigger bores in a stock case are so thin in the walls that they aren't very long lasted, and the power gains are minuscule?
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cv66seabear Samba Member
Joined: February 18, 2017 Posts: 105 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:39 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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The PO replaced the dome light and I've bought a proper replacement - could someone please post a picture of what your dome light mounting looks like with the light removed? All I have is a hole for the power and ground, but the new light looks like it clips into a space in the headliner. _________________ "Not all who wander are lost." JRR Tolkien
1979 Campmobile - "Pancho Verde"
Old Friends - gone now:
1964 Beetle "Liebchen"
Mark 3 Jetta "Liebchen Zwei"
Passat Wagon "Wolf"
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cv66seabear Samba Member
Joined: February 18, 2017 Posts: 105 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:43 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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asiab3 wrote: |
Hey folks, I'm away from my bus for two weeks, and I'm brainstorming a new interior layout, not made of cardboard this time! Can anyone measure a walkthrough mat, or even the walkthrough WIDTH for me? I believe it tapers, yes?
Thanks!
Robbie |
Hi,
Measured my original piece (79 Campmobile)
The rear end is 15 9/16"" wide, the front is 17" wide, it is a fairly gradual taper until the front, where it flares out on both sides for the last 1inch
Length is 30". Only the sides have the vinyl trim, both ends are unfinished - one tucks under the rear heat vent molding and the front end tucks under the front carpet.
I'll try to get a good picture and post it. (it's the posting I worry about).
KentWI _________________ "Not all who wander are lost." JRR Tolkien
1979 Campmobile - "Pancho Verde"
Old Friends - gone now:
1964 Beetle "Liebchen"
Mark 3 Jetta "Liebchen Zwei"
Passat Wagon "Wolf"
2015 Passat Sedan "Rudy" |
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LazyLightning75 Samba Member
Joined: August 02, 2016 Posts: 115 Location: Carmichael, CA
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:24 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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cv66seabear wrote: |
The PO replaced the dome light and I've bought a proper replacement - could someone please post a picture of what your dome light mounting looks like with the light removed? All I have is a hole for the power and ground, but the new light looks like it clips into a space in the headliner. |
Does this help?
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cv66seabear Samba Member
Joined: February 18, 2017 Posts: 105 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:38 am Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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Thanks Lazy Lightning 75!
Pretty much what I figured - there was a cutout. Must have replaced the front piece of headliner, and just bought a screw in lamp.
Looks like to do this right, I'll have to remove the headliner, cut the rectangle and re-install headliner.
Thanks again! _________________ "Not all who wander are lost." JRR Tolkien
1979 Campmobile - "Pancho Verde"
Old Friends - gone now:
1964 Beetle "Liebchen"
Mark 3 Jetta "Liebchen Zwei"
Passat Wagon "Wolf"
2015 Passat Sedan "Rudy" |
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Giwis Samba Member
Joined: June 22, 2012 Posts: 1
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:11 am Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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Hello. I'm new in T2 world. Bought Riviera 1978 with broken engine block. Question, is GE engine block are the same as CA or others type 4 engines? Thanks. |
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50414
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:48 am Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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Giwis wrote: |
Hello. I'm new in T2 world. Bought Riviera 1978 with broken engine block. Question, is GE engine block are the same as CA or others type 4 engines? Thanks. |
They are all close to being identical, with the main difference being in the oil pressure relief system which VW changed a couple of times over the years. There is a debate if the changes were upgrades or not. |
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Tcash Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2011 Posts: 12844 Location: San Jose, California, USA
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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Welcome to TheSamba!
You can use any of the Type IV cases.
With your 2L crank and rods.
You may need to have the cylinder holes cut bigger to except the 2L cylinders.
Pre 78 cases had solid lifters but can be converted to hydraulic.
Other than that, everything off your broke engine will bolt on to any type IV case.
Good luck
Tcash
You should start a build thread and introduce yourself and your Bus. |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51249 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:17 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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maz-o wrote: |
Is this what's usually refferred as 88mm P&C on various parts sites?
Piston says 87.93. Barrel says Mahle.
Seems unevenly worn both on the pistons and barrels. And they also leaked against the block.
Would it be best to replace these and go back to stock 85.5mm? Or hone/lap them and get new 88mm rings?
I've heard these bigger bores in a stock case are so thin in the walls that they aren't very long lasted, and the power gains are minuscule?
Thanks |
Yes, a piston has to be a hair smaller than the bore so it won't sieze up as it warms, those are 88's.
For a bus you'd be better off going back to the 85.5mm, as you already figured out the hardly noticeable gain isn't worth the poor heat tolerance and warpage the thin walled cylinders suffer from. You can get away with it in a light beetle, but not so much in a heavy bus. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
Please don't PM technical questions, ask your problem in public so everyone can play along. If you think it's too stupid post it here
Stop dead photo links! Post your photos to The Samba Gallery!
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Globespotter Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2012 Posts: 1771 Location: Newmarket, ON
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50414
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:54 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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Globespotter wrote: |
So the engine on my 77 Westy is out for a rebuild. Any advice on what to do while it is out?
I have already replaced the fuel filler and vapor lines. Thinking I'll pull the sender and fix it. Any other tasks while I'm in there? |
Reseal your tranny if it has not been done in a while. Also install a shift bushing kit while the tranny is out. |
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