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LuluThe1970Bug Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2017 Posts: 30
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Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:12 pm Post subject: Who has upgraded to led lights? |
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I am wanting to upgrade to led headlights, tail lights and such.
Suggestions are appreciated _________________ Lulu 1970 Bug
Pebbles 1972 standard |
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Beeble1 Samba Member
Joined: August 14, 2012 Posts: 578 Location: Manteno, Illinois
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Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:22 pm Post subject: Re: Who has upgraded to led lights? |
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Read this:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0
I switched to a set of VC4000’s from vintagecarleds and I love them.
If you have any specific questions you can contact them here:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=385683
They are very helpful if you are unsure what to get.
For taillights and marker lights, you can probably just change out the bulbs with LED ones from the auto parts store. _________________ Beeble1, ‘73 Super (o\_|_/o) 1600cc w/ Dealer A/C
Beeble2, ‘13 Beetle 2.5L Daily Driver
Dealership items from Bishop-Wayne Volkswagen & Turner Volkswagen in Kankakee, IL wanted |
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vintagecarleds Samba Member
Joined: April 28, 2015 Posts: 178 Location: Houston, TX
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robcy04 Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2018 Posts: 207 Location: FL
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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:31 am Post subject: Re: Who has upgraded to led lights? |
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I have a 1979 SB and I would like to upgrade the tail lights. The Sylvania site list the following bulbs:
Turn Front = 1157(White)
Turn Rear = 1156(White)
Brake = 1156R(Red)
Park = 1157(White)
Backup = 1156(White)
Has anyone done this, and can they confirm that this is correct? |
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Mr.Duncan Samba Member
Joined: May 12, 2012 Posts: 3542 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:42 am Post subject: Re: Who has upgraded to led lights? |
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robcy04 wrote: |
I have a 1979 SB and I would like to upgrade the tail lights. The Sylvania site list the following bulbs:
Turn Front = 1157(White)
Turn Rear = 1156(White)
Brake = 1156R(Red)
Park = 1157(White)
Backup = 1156(White)
Has anyone done this, and can they confirm that this is correct? |
Yes, the above part numbers are correct.
See the above youtube video. You will need to get a AMBER bulb for Amber lenses, Red bulb for red lenses etc...
Will need to swap out your turn signal relay/flasher to a LED version (EP-35) if you swap turn signals to LEDs _________________ (Owner) www.vintagecarleds.com
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1971 Green Super Beetle (sold)
1966 Ghia (sold)
1971 Blue Super Beetle (sold)
1966 Java Green Std Beetle (sold)
1971 Red Squareback (sold)
1966 Red Beetle
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Matt Wilson Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2005 Posts: 2408 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:55 am Post subject: Re: Who has upgraded to led lights? |
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I'm curious if the turn signal relay would act normally with the reduced system load?? I've been considering LED's for a while just haven't gotten to that on my list yet. _________________ 1972 Standard Beetle
1969 Baja Beetle |
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Mr.Duncan Samba Member
Joined: May 12, 2012 Posts: 3542 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:13 pm Post subject: Re: Who has upgraded to led lights? |
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Matt Wilson wrote: |
I'm curious if the turn signal relay would act normally with the reduced system load?? I've been considering LED's for a while just haven't gotten to that on my list yet. |
It will hyper flash. You will need to install a EP-35 turn signal relay. Can be found for around $6 online. _________________ (Owner) www.vintagecarleds.com
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1966 Ghia (sold)
1971 Blue Super Beetle (sold)
1966 Java Green Std Beetle (sold)
1971 Red Squareback (sold)
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Matt Wilson Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2005 Posts: 2408 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:40 pm Post subject: Re: Who has upgraded to led lights? |
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Ah - sorry skimmed past that. Will the hyper-flashing break a stock relay? _________________ 1972 Standard Beetle
1969 Baja Beetle |
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Mr.Duncan Samba Member
Joined: May 12, 2012 Posts: 3542 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:41 pm Post subject: Re: Who has upgraded to led lights? |
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Matt Wilson wrote: |
Ah - sorry skimmed past that. Will the hyper-flashing break a stock relay? |
I don't see it breaking it, but it will blink about twice as fast. So I assume it will "wear out" twice as fast?
Just throw in a $6 LED version of the same relay to be safe. _________________ (Owner) www.vintagecarleds.com
Red 1971 Squareback Thread
Red 1966 Beetle Thread
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1971 Green Super Beetle (sold)
1966 Ghia (sold)
1971 Blue Super Beetle (sold)
1966 Java Green Std Beetle (sold)
1971 Red Squareback (sold)
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windfish Samba Member
Joined: September 05, 2012 Posts: 1126 Location: NC
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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:46 pm Post subject: Re: Who has upgraded to led lights? |
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Yep, Amazon has a bunch of 'em too
I bought this adjustable one -
Mostly 'cause I thought it was funny.
Works fine, allowed me to set the blink rate to something that felt right.
I'm running Philips Xtremevision LED's in my bug's rear lights, they're about double the price for about the same performance; got Zevo's in the third brake lights.
Still happy with 'em
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Meiang Samba Member
Joined: September 27, 2016 Posts: 656 Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: Who has upgraded to led lights? |
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I have tested most of the main brands of H4 LED replacement bulbs and none have the uniformity of beam spread of a good halogen bulb. They included:
- Osram
- Philips
- PIAA
People with an old car may see a difference with the LED bulb because the (the VW Beetle especially) car has a significant voltage drop between the battery and the bulb and the LED controller has a DC-DC converter which boosts the voltage up to around 13.2V.
If you ran the H4 Bulb at around 12.7V which is the nominal voltage for the bulb with full light output you would see a significant improvement in light output without the patchy inconsistent beam of the LED bulb.
You cannot get the same beam from an LED bulb with chipsets on a flat plane separated by a few millimetres. It physically is not as good a light from a single point as with the halogen filament which the lamp unit is designed for.
The better solution rather than install LED bulbs is modify the wiring in your car to take power for the headlight bulbs directly from the battery and use the existing wiring for switching via a relay.
I would recommend using OSRAM Night Breaker Laser bulbs. They are the best standard halagen bulbs available.
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