Hello! Log in or Register   |  Help  |  Donate  |  Buy Shirts See all banner ads | Advertise on TheSamba.com  
TheSamba.com
 
Best way to fix Dings, Dents and Creases
Page: Previous  1, 2
Forum Index -> Vanagon Share: Facebook Twitter
Reply to topic
Print View
Quick sort: Show newest posts on top | Show oldest posts on top View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
figborg
Samba Member


Joined: August 24, 2015
Posts: 338
Location: Northeast
figborg is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:15 am    Post subject: Re: Best way to fix Dings, Dents and Creases Reply with quote

Bulli Klinik wrote:
If you want it to come out nice, take it to a PDR guy with experience.

If you want to push the dent out, do it yourself.

Nothing worse than having to work out a simple dent that the owner stretched with good intentions.

If you're going to do it, just work the crease near the swage at the belt-line. The valley is locking up the metal above it. Get that out and you should hardly have to touch the upper section.


Thank you!
_________________
-- PF
Providence, RI
1986.5 Westy camper (G year code, grey interior), 2WD, manual transmission, Subaru conversion by Vanaru. Spoiled rotten.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=662374
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Tbob
Samba Member


Joined: May 26, 2007
Posts: 441
Location: Pensacola, Fl.
Tbob is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:14 am    Post subject: Re: Best way to fix Dings, Dents and Creases Reply with quote

Listen to Mike (Bulli Klinik). Work the dent at the body crease, and most if not all the rest of the dent will come out. As he said, nothing worse than trying to fiix something that a well intentioned owner has made worse. Because it is dented at a crease, I don't think any of the air bladder deals will work. A skrinking disk is used after the paint is already sanded off, and if I understand it right, you are trying to fix without repaint. If you have the time to research, there is a dreat book called "The Key to Metal Bumping, by Frank T. Sargent". It is available from Eastwood IIRC. Although an old book, and it goes into more detail about how to repair all kinds of dents, the first principles he gives should help you in your quest.
It may be that a good paintless dent guy may be the best answer. As much as I am a serious DIY guy, and I know that I could get 95 % of those dents out, to make it almost invisible takes skill and experience that I do not have. If you have not done much bodywork, that may be asking too much. Then again, you may be a bodywork savant.
_________________
1969 Deluxe, owned since 1973
1973 Westfalia, owned since 1983
1980 Westfalia, watercooled conversion
1985 Westfalia, stock!
1986 Westfakia, Audi I-4 conversion
A couple of trucks and a couple of Jeeps
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Classifieds Feedback
Bulli Klinik
Samba Member


Joined: January 16, 2005
Posts: 2215
Location: Bulli Klinik, Colorado Springs
Bulli Klinik is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:02 am    Post subject: Re: Best way to fix Dings, Dents and Creases Reply with quote

Key to metal bumping.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7wfPfQU-fbhS3dURHpPRWloc28/edit

Getting the 95% is easy. It's the last 5% that takes 95% of the time. Smile
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

_________________
PM me about quality metal-work on your vehicle.
Mike K
Bulli Klinik
Colorado Springs
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Butcher
Samba Member


Joined: December 05, 2015
Posts: 1282
Location: Right Here
Butcher is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:50 am    Post subject: Re: Best way to fix Dings, Dents and Creases Reply with quote

Very informative link. Thank you!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
dlm1897
Samba Member


Joined: June 12, 2017
Posts: 8
Location: KCMO
dlm1897 is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Best way to fix Dings, Dents and Creases Reply with quote

New Vanagon owner with a fresh dent. I'm sick to my stomach over here. Any advice on getting this out? Stopped by a local body shop to ask if it could be pulled out and they said no, and recommended bondo. Any help would be appreciated!

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Scubavw
Samba Member


Joined: May 22, 2008
Posts: 85
Location: Montose, CO
Scubavw is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Best way to fix Dings, Dents and Creases Reply with quote

I bet you can find a body man that will pull that out.
I am no expert but it looks like it can be pulled.
The crease on the seam might be the problem.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
dlm1897
Samba Member


Joined: June 12, 2017
Posts: 8
Location: KCMO
dlm1897 is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Best way to fix Dings, Dents and Creases Reply with quote

Scubavw wrote:
I bet you can find a body man that will pull that out.
I am no expert but it looks like it can be pulled.
The crease on the seam might be the problem.


I may take it by another shop tomorrow. I kind of had the feeling it just wasn't worth the guy's time when I asked if it could be pulled.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Wellington
Samba Member


Joined: September 21, 2004
Posts: 2008
Location: Montreal
Wellington is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:48 am    Post subject: Re: Best way to fix Dings, Dents and Creases Reply with quote

dim1897
that for sure can be repaired with minimal body filler.
The next shop you approach, explain to them that you will remove the interior giving full access to the rear of that panel. Likely the first body shop you went to say its a Westfalia, cabinets in the way, too much work, by the time he gives you a quote, he sees you gasping for air. Body shops want $$$ which they get from insurance claims.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Bulli Klinik
Samba Member


Joined: January 16, 2005
Posts: 2215
Location: Bulli Klinik, Colorado Springs
Bulli Klinik is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:23 am    Post subject: Re: Best way to fix Dings, Dents and Creases Reply with quote

I had nearly the exact same damage on my Bus. Here's how I fixed it: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...p;start=80

I think a good PDR guy and low expectations would be your best bet. If you can't find anyone and your willing to remove the interior and bring it down, I could get it very close without painting or just a little touch up of the seam. That's a difficult area to metal finish unless you have very long arms.

The most important aspect of that repair is to make sure that the displaced seam sealer is replaced and that it's sealed up behind the panel as well.

I actually have some Aswan Brown leftover from painting my bike:
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

_________________
PM me about quality metal-work on your vehicle.
Mike K
Bulli Klinik
Colorado Springs
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Forum Index -> Vanagon All times are Mountain Standard Time/Pacific Daylight Savings Time
Page: Previous  1, 2
Page 2 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

About | Help! | Advertise | Donate | Premium Membership | Privacy/Terms of Use | Contact Us | Site Map
Copyright © 1996-2025, Everett Barnes. All Rights Reserved.
Not affiliated with or sponsored by Volkswagen of America | Forum powered by phpBB
Links to eBay or other vendor sites may be affiliate links where the site receives compensation.