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otiswesty
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| ...if you carry gasoline there, be aware you have a firebomb under your feet in the event of a hard front collision... |
Good point. Seven liters of motor oil would be a decent alternative.
I'm personally okay with the gas there. Occasionally I drive without my seat belt on as well.
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thasty07
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| otiswesty wrote: |
I'm personally okay with the gas there. Occasionally I drive without my seat belt on as well. |
Without a seatbelt, you probably have a greater chance of surviving as you will be ejected away from the massive fireball.  |
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86scotty
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Location: Tennessee
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| Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:31 am Post subject: Re: Spare tire storage container DIY |
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It really baffles me that a Vanagon owner would worry about this. 
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dhaavers
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| Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:12 am Post subject: Re: Spare tire storage container DIY |
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Indeed...not like there isn't almost 10x that already right under your a&&... 
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vanadom
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Location: Vancouver, BC
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| Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:08 am Post subject: Re: Spare tire storage container DIY |
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| Can someone buy something like this or is it all DIY? |
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TKentT
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Location: Sevierville TN
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| Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:42 pm Post subject: Re: Spare tire storage container DIY |
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| 86scotty wrote: |
| It really baffles me that a Vanagon owner would worry about this. |
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Indeed...not like there isn't almost 10x that already right under your a&&... Wink
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Perhaps because there's a lot of frame, suspension and crumple zone protecting the gas tank -- while basically only the front bumper is protecting the clamshell, which IMO, is engineered to be be a part of the crumple zone just like the spare tire on an old bug...
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86scotty
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Location: Tennessee
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| Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:22 pm Post subject: Re: Spare tire storage container DIY |
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| TKentT wrote: |
Perhaps because there's a lot of frame, suspension and crumple zone protecting the gas tank -- while basically only the front bumper is protecting the clamshell, which IMO, is engineered to be be a part of the crumple zone just like the spare tire on an old bug...
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Hello neighbor, I'm over in Maryville pretty close to you. I see your point about the crumple zone, etc. My point was that Vanagons are really in no way safe in the first place compared to modern cars. No airbags, not the best brakes, no ABS, propane tanks, lines, etc. under most of them and they catch on fire quite regularly from a variety of causes including fuel lines. I hope no one buys one under the illusion that it's a good, safe family hauler. It's a fun family hauler. No one but my son will get in mine with me anyway so in many ways it's the perfect family hauler!
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danfromsyr
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| Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:56 am Post subject: Re: Spare tire storage container DIY |
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guys there's ALOT of crash worthiness conversation over in this thread.
originated by the above crashed van driver.
www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=175672
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46orBust
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| Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:04 pm Post subject: Re: Spare tire storage container DIY |
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What would you list as essential to put in here ?
I have an 85 westy 2whl drive |
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SCM
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| Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:36 pm Post subject: Re: Spare tire storage container DIY |
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What would you list as essential to put in here ?
I have an 85 westy 2whl drive |
What is essential to put into storage in the spare tire location? Nothing.
What do you want to put in there, if anything?
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Paulbeard
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| Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:50 pm Post subject: Re: Spare tire storage container DIY |
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| SCM wrote: |
What is essential to put into storage in the spare tire location? Nothing.
What do you want to put in there, if anything? |
I found 5 qts of out of date motor oil on mine when I got around to dropping the clamshell and taking a look.
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mtnride1
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| Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:06 am Post subject: Re: Spare tire storage container DIY |
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I removed my clam shell and installed the GW box. I have my levelers, wheel chocks and a scissors jack in there. Still have room. I asked someone the same question and they said "that's where you hide your weed" that is from a SNL skit a long time ago.
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Surferboy120
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| Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:32 am Post subject: Re: Spare tire storage container DIY |
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| I am about to try this mod and was wondering. When cutting the lid cant you cut it to say 6" so that it fits almost to the 6'3/4 length of the bottom and then fitting it upside down would be super water proof since water cannot travel up and then "Maybe" a seal is not so important? |
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uberaudi
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| Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:44 pm Post subject: Re: Spare tire storage container DIY |
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| With my spare on the rear mounted RMW carrier I used this space for spare parts for my old 1.9L. Alternator, fuel pump, coolant hoses and plastics, electrical components. Basically I put stuff in there that I didn't need to access quickly, but wanted to carry with me. How far do you travel out of service? These items can certainly become essential to get you back home. |
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ALIKA T3
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| Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:16 pm Post subject: Re: Spare tire storage container DIY |
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| I am about to try this mod and was wondering. When cutting the lid cant you cut it to say 6" so that it fits almost to the 6'3/4 length of the bottom and then fitting it upside down would be super water proof since water cannot travel up and then "Maybe" a seal is not so important? |
I cut mine so it overlaps top onto bottom. It`s gtricky to measure bc the thickness and roundness is very inconsistent.
I caulked and bolted everything together, using a drum with a peripheral clamp latch lid type, that have a gasket.
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Surferboy120
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| Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:20 am Post subject: Re: Spare tire storage container DIY |
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| ALIKA T3 wrote: |
| Surferboy120 wrote: |
| I am about to try this mod and was wondering. When cutting the lid cant you cut it to say 6" so that it fits almost to the 6'3/4 length of the bottom and then fitting it upside down would be super water proof since water cannot travel up and then "Maybe" a seal is not so important? |
I cut mine so it overlaps top onto bottom. It`s gtricky to measure bc the thickness and roundness is very inconsistent.
I caulked and bolted everything together, using a drum with a peripheral clamp latch lid type, that have a gasket. |
I bolted mine together as well but ended up not making it very long. In the end it was not to be water tight in my case so its worked out. Its a great cheap way to store stuff thats for sure. Thanks for the reply on this. |
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uberaudi
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| Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 3:23 pm Post subject: Re: Spare tire storage container DIY |
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Small update to my DIY spare tire storage.
I've had a little leakage in my storage container and decided a new seal was in order. I initially used a rubber hose split down the side and glued on but it never really worked that great. Dust and water always found a way in.
So I ordered this:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&...NYkSDPVRZA
And used some Permatex silicone adhesive to glue it on. The lid fits noticably tighter and with the four clasps around the perimeter I'm hopeing this takes care of the water ingress.
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erste
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| Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 5:39 pm Post subject: Re: Spare tire storage container DIY |
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| Small update to my DIY spare tire storage. |
Nice.
Thanks for the link to that weather stripping.
I've wanted to build a metal storage box, but the 55 gallon drum solution is so much easier and it gives me a reason to put the clamshell back in.
This will be my weekend project. |
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andy52
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And this is one that swings down to accept a spare. These came on vans with the rough road package.
To the OP, nice job! |
I use one of these tire carriers. They were the stock tire carrier on all Tristar Syncros. The larger size allows for a 27" Grabber tire. I have a round fuel container with an extra 7L of fuel in my 14" alloy there. They occasionally pop up on eBay.
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omg i want that!
just saw online the metallic ones, even used, cost like , 300€, even 600€!!
no plastic version? |
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Schnippzle
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:30 am Post subject: Re: Spare tire storage container DIY |
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| Does anyone know if these storage containers, correct size for spare wheel space, can be bought? If so, where from please? |
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