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NASkeet
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 Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:46 am Post subject: Re: M-288 Factory headlight washer system? |
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You will be lucky if the pump works. Mine worked for a day, then pooped out. Ive since bought two modern ones to fit inline to replace it. Id toss those windshield squirters in the bin. They are cheap to buy new with the two or thee holes. Same with the original pump for the windscreen. Its an old early Golf type pump. Loud as shit and takes a minute to pump up. Ive since bought a replacement for that as well.
The only value in your purchase is the tank, column switch, relays, wiring harness & overriders, the rest is rubbish or will be soon. |
I don't have column switch, relay and wiring harness and the poor-condition over-riders are either both left-hand or both right-hand, which isn't very useful.
Having SVD/SWW wash-wiper blades and still having my original VDO cum VW Type 2 windscreen-washer nozzles, I don't really need the damaged ones that came with the partial headlamp-washer system.
SVD/SWW wash-wiper blades
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notchboy
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| Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:00 am Post subject: Re: M-288 Factory headlight washer system? |
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I haven't ever seen a wiper blade with the water coming out of the blade? Just the modern type with the squirter on the arm.
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NASkeet
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| Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:40 am Post subject: Re: M-288 Factory headlight washer system? |
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| I haven't ever seen a wiper blade with the water coming out of the blade? Just the modern type with the squirter on the arm. |
They were exclusively a Swedish accessory product, which were readily available at car accessory shops in Sweden. I bought sets in the mid-1980s for both the 1973 VW "1600" Type 2 Westfalia Continental motor-caravan and 1974 Triumph Toledo 1300 "HL Special".  They are fantastic; using much less water and clean the windscreen more effectively than with conventional washer jets! 
I have a wiper-arm mounted four-nozzle unit for my 1973 VW "1600" Type 2's rear-window wiper.
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NASkeet
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| Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:41 am Post subject: Re: M-288 Factory headlight washer system? |
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I have been investigating the fitment of the large, 8 litre black-plastic water tank in my RIGHT-HAND DRIVE, 1973 model-year VW "1600" Type 2. It appears that in order to fit it, I shall need to remove the fixed, interior-body-colour painted, left-hand support-bracket (below the right-hand hot-air outlet) for the existing lozenge-shaped, air-pressurised windscreen-washer reservoir.
I would have expected this left-hand support-bracket to have been welded to the bodywork, but I can see no tell-tale crater-shaped signs of spot welding. How is the support-bracket attached and what methods have people used to remove it; ideally without damaging either the bodywork or support-bracket.
I shall probably never want to replace the original lozenge-shaped, air-pressurised windscreen-washer reservoir, but to be on the safe side, I would prefer to avoid significantly damaging the support-bracket, just in case I ever need to reinstall it!
Bearing in mind that I have a RIGHT-HAND DRIVE, 1973 model-year VW "1600" Type 2, whose steering column is on the same side as the washer reservoir/tank, is it necessary or desirable to temporarily remove the central, vertical hot-air distribution duct & hot-air outlets, in order to install the 8 litre black-plastic water tank, windscreen-washer pump, headlamp-washer pump and hoses etc?
Given that I have a 1973 model-year VW "1600" Type 2, I would need the steering-column mounted, windscreen wiper & washer switch from a Swedish specification, 1974 model-year VW Type 2; those from the 1975~79 model-years being incompatible with my steering column.
Does anyone know the appropriate part number for the Swedish specification, 1974 model-year VW Type 2 windscreen wiper & washer switch!?! If push comes to shove, I could probably modify my spare British specification, 1973~74 model-years VW Type 2 windscreen wiper & washer switch, by substituting a micro-switch & custom-made installation bracket, in place of the existing water release valve.
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notchboy
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| Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:34 am Post subject: Re: M-288 Factory headlight washer system? |
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Yes, unfortunately to install the bigger tank, you need to remove the stock bracket for the water reservoir. I was going to put the larger tank in my 74 Westy for fun sake and stopped when I remembered I had to cut the bracket in my 77.
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| Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 11:06 am Post subject: Re: M-288 Factory headlight washer system? |
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The headlamp washers certainly seem to squirt okay, but how effective are they at removing a wet film of dirt and a dry film of dirt!?!
From my perspective, it seems odd entering the cab via the left hand door! I keep forgetting that you North americans hve the steering wheel on the wrong side! 
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notchboy
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| Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 1:00 pm Post subject: Re: M-288 Factory headlight washer system? |
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The headlamp washers certainly seem to squirt okay, but how effective are they at removing a wet film of dirt and a dry film of dirt!?!
From my perspective, it seems odd entering the cab via the left hand door! I keep forgetting that you North americans hve the steering wheel on the wrong side! |
Well, haven't had to test any of that out. But the headlight squirters are like this.
Whereas a problem with getting film off maybe from a squirter like this. Not so good at stains and such.
As they sit now, the tops of all the nozzles I have are cracked. Water squirts out the top. I also need to revisit the backflow check valves. Water is pushed out Time and again from just sitting from gravity. I was lucky to get some nos nozzles from BusOk! Got two sets He has more. I'll dink with this again when I get those.
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| Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 1:14 pm Post subject: Re: M-288 Factory headlight washer system? |
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They were exclusively a Swedish accessory product, which were readily available at car accessory shops in Sweden. I bought sets in the mid-1980s for both the 1973 VW "1600" Type 2 Westfalia Continental motor-caravan and 1974 Triumph Toledo 1300 "HL Special". They are fantastic; using much less water and clean the windscreen more effectively than with conventional washer jets!
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That's pretty clever! I have seen some cars here in the U.S., I think predominantly GM cars of the '90s, that had the washer nozzles mounted to the wiper arms rather than the cowl...however I didn't like that system, because the nozzles only sprayed on one side of the wiper blade, leaving the other side dry for the return stroke.
Putting the nozzle inside the blade...that's pretty cool.
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| Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 10:05 am Post subject: Re: M-288 Factory headlight washer system? |
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BusOk had the nozzle/Jet squirter assemblies, nos, and ready to go. Talk about an odd part to have and a super, super small market to sell to. I grabbed two sets. I doubt the first set will go bad in my lifetime, but I have spares now. Maybe the future will bring a set of these being remanufactured on a 3D printer? Like the overriders, maybe the tank, and bits like these nozzles. The other parts are still out there in one form or another. 
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| Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 1:14 pm Post subject: Re: M-288 Factory headlight washer system? |
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| NASkeet wrote: |
They were exclusively a Swedish accessory product, which were readily available at car accessory shops in Sweden. I bought sets in the mid-1980s for both the 1973 VW "1600" Type 2 Westfalia Continental motor-caravan and 1974 Triumph Toledo 1300 "HL Special". They are fantastic; using much less water and clean the windscreen more effectively than with conventional washer jets!
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That's pretty clever! I have seen some cars here in the U.S., I think predominantly GM cars of the '90s, that had the washer nozzles mounted to the wiper arms rather than the cowl...however I didn't like that system, because the nozzles only sprayed on one side of the wiper blade, leaving the other side dry for the return stroke.
Putting the nozzle inside the blade...that's pretty cool. |
I also mentioned wiper-arm mounted, VDO/SWF clip-on washer-nozzle housings, with four adjustable ball-nozzles. In recent years these or similar units have become more readily available in Great Britain as after-market accessory kits and I shall probably update the following topic thread in this regard, sometime in the future.
Bay Window Bus > 1968~79 VW Type 2 window wiper & washer upgrades
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=186468
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| Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 10:57 am Post subject: Re: M-288 Factory headlight washer system? |
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Almost two years ago, I stumbled across a website link in another topic thread on the forum, which was to the second page of a Swedish VW Transporter accessories leaflet I have since downloaded that image into The Samba Gallery for posterity:
Page 2 of an undated, archived Swedish automotive accessories leaflet, pertaining to 1968~79 VW Type 2 Transporters.
Illustrated items 15 & 17 in the right-hand bottom corner of the page, described in Swedish, pertain to an accessory rear-window wiper & front headlamp wiper system respectively.
The descriptions translate into English as follows:
Item 15 - REAR WINDOW WIPER [T 70 00 00] All dells for the rear window wiper are well protected, so that the load cannot damage the structure. With parallel flushing. Suitable from -68 to -75
Item 17 - HEADLAMP WIPERS [T 70 02 25] For VW Transporter with 12V El-System up to -73. The kit includes all the details for the assembly. Mounting instructions included
It shows a rear-window wiper, similar if not identical to those previously seen, on other Swedish specification 1968~79 VW Type 2s, plus 12V electric headlamp-lens wipers which I had not previously known even existed!
Has anyone ever seen any 1968~73 VW Type 2s equipped with headlamp-lens wipers like these? I wonder whether the wiper-blades somehow flex to the opposite curvature, as they cross over half way, to completely wipe the other lens halves!?!
Swedish 1973~79 VW Type 2 with a retro-fitted rear-window wiper
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| Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 11:52 am Post subject: Re: M-288 Factory headlight washer system? |
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| NASkeet wrote: |
They were exclusively a Swedish accessory product, which were readily available at car accessory shops in Sweden. I bought sets in the mid-1980s for both the 1973 VW "1600" Type 2 Westfalia Continental motor-caravan and 1974 Triumph Toledo 1300 "HL Special". They are fantastic; using much less water and clean the windscreen more effectively than with conventional washer jets!
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That's pretty clever! I have seen some cars here in the U.S., I think predominantly GM cars of the '90s, that had the washer nozzles mounted to the wiper arms rather than the cowl...however I didn't like that system, because the nozzles only sprayed on one side of the wiper blade, leaving the other side dry for the return stroke.
Putting the nozzle inside the blade...that's pretty cool. |
The blade-rubbers are hollow, with perforations which deliver the water directly onto the window-glass. With the perforations unsealed at the leading-edge and sealed at the trailing-edge, so that water always comes out ahead of the blade-rubber as it sweeps across the window; thus ensuring maximum cleaning effect with the minimum of water wastage.
The blade-rubbers I received, had perforations at circa 75 mm intervals along their length, but I discovered that they worked better after I drilled some additional small holes (either 0.5 or 1.0 mm diameter; I forget which) through to the hollow internal water-channel, at circa 25 mm intervals. This resulted in uniform water distribution along the whole length of the blade-rubber's leading-edge.
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Much modified, RHD 1973 VW "1600" Type 2 Westfalia Continental campervan, with the World's only decent, cross-over-arm, SWF pantograph rear-window wiper
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