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Rickyk22 Samba Member
Joined: February 13, 2020 Posts: 50 Location: Long Island, NY
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Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:43 pm Post subject: Re: Rimco / Fat Performance / Hilldebrandt Machine |
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Everytime I feel like a I find a shop I would consider doing some work, it seems like they do some real disappointing stuff. Are there any good machine shops out there? |
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westy66 Samba Member

Joined: November 11, 2004 Posts: 349 Location: Cleveland, OH
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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:28 pm Post subject: Re: Rimco / Fat Performance / Hilldebrandt Machine |
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TomSimon Samba Member
Joined: January 13, 2004 Posts: 751
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:40 pm Post subject: Re: Rimco / Fat Performance / Hilldebrandt Machine |
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Rimco and FAT are businesse(s) in name only, the tool and die shop that also machined VW cases and heads called Rimco is gone. I read FAT shut it's doors, now the name is back, WTF? This thread leads me to believe someone bought the names, and is riding the coat tails of past reputations.
Everyone I know stopped using whatever machine shop is using either/both names a while ago, after having bad experiences, and now go to Brother's Machine in Ontario CA. A guy I crew for just had a new mag case race prepped by Brothers. On schedule, within 10% of the quoted price, did exactly what I asked for, no up-sell, no excuses, no BS. Just like the old Rimco!
The other place I would send people to is Blackline in Blackfoot Utah. Justin and Shayla bought Art Thraen out 10yrs ago, have all the equipment, and know how to use it. They are not only engine builders, but enthusiasts who race at Bonneville. _________________ 2-time NASA Pro Racing Champion, Bonneville 130 Club and 150 Club Memeber, BRS Pro Gas racer |
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Busstom Samba Member

Joined: November 23, 2014 Posts: 4579 Location: San Jose, CA
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 11:44 pm Post subject: Re: Rimco / Fat Performance / Hilldebrandt Machine |
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TomSimon wrote: |
I read FAT shut it's doors, now the name is back, WTF? This thread leads me to believe someone bought the names, and is riding the coat tails of past reputations. |
No, Ron and Greg sold the business to Dennis (Rimco). So, you're right in that it's definitely not the same FAT, but he legitimately acquired the name with the intent of continuing the business, with no doors ever closing. |
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GPRacing Samba Member
Joined: September 08, 2021 Posts: 14 Location: AZ
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 9:57 pm Post subject: Re: Rimco / Fat Performance / Hilldebrandt Machine |
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Is Rimco still in business? I've been trying to call them for two weeks now. Voicemail is full, zero social media response.
If they do not want work, who else does machining on VW cases? |
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GPRacing Samba Member
Joined: September 08, 2021 Posts: 14 Location: AZ
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: RIMCO VW MACHINE SHOP |
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Rimco VW wrote: |
HELLO FELLOW VW ENTHUSIASTS, RIMCO VW MACHINE SHOP HAS BEEN SERVING THE VW COMMUNITY FOR OVER 40 YEARS , AND HAS NO INTEREST IN STOPING NOW. ALTHOUGH WE HAVE MOVED FROM OUR OLD SANTA ANA BUILDING, INTO THE NEWER SANTA FE SPRINGS BUILDING BACK IN MARCH THIS YEAR. THE NEWER ADDRESS IS 12951 SUNNYSIDE PL. SANTA FE SPRINGS , CA. 90670. THE NEW PHONE NUMBER IS 562-946-3100 OR 1-855-RIMCOVW. WE HAVE FOUND OUT THE DILEMA ON THE WEB-SITE PROBLEM, AND WILL BE FIXED AND UP IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. PEOPLE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT RIMCO, CALL RIMCO ! |
I have called numerous times, left messages, tried contacting you through social media with no response. Back in the 80's I used you guys all of the time with great success at Karl's Kustoms in Az. Now, I cannot even get a phone call back. I am saddened to hear all of these negative reviews, but it makes me believe them. Since, you guys have not responded to any of my messages, I did do some investigating on my own. It seems like your quality has diminished since then, and now what I had been hoping to send my case to now I will not. The one way I will send a case is hearing more positive reports on how things have changed. Saying you will is one thing, but actions speak louder to me. Now, I have decided to do the work myself and purchase the tools necessary to do the work here at home. It really hurt to even write this, because of our history back then. |
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Joined: September 16, 2002 Posts: 2179 Location: Behind the wheel
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:48 pm Post subject: Re: Rimco / Fat Performance / Hilldebrandt Machine |
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I've called 3 times asking about lineboring a case. Each time, the Woman that answered the phone told me she would check with the Machinist, and and get back to me. She hasn't. The 4th time I called, she told me to email them to remind them. I did that, and Still haven't heard back from them.
I called Brother's Machine.
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shanered Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2022 Posts: 68
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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:41 am Post subject: Re: Rimco / Fat Performance / Hilldebrandt Machine |
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I can't believe thes guys are still doing business. I never heard from them after they broke my cylinder head. |
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DesignBuild Samba Member
Joined: September 29, 2016 Posts: 401 Location: HOUSTON, TEXAS
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Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 3:46 pm Post subject: Re: Rimco |
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I had problems:
3) RIMCO align bored my case and balanced the rotating mass. I asked for main bearings to fit. They sold me STD bearings for a .25 crank. My engine failed within 5 minutes of running in. |
You didn't check the clearances with Plasitgage? That is standard practice. I've never heard of someone not checking the bearing to shaft clearances when assembling the engine. You could have avoided this destruction by checking the clearance. It isn't their fault that you didn't check the clearance before starting the engine.
I suggest you learn how to do a rebuild. Getting Bob Hoover's pdf off Scribd just might help you in the future. He explains how to use Plastigage or is it Plastigauge?
Plastigage source link: https://a.co/d/98oe6BN |
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EverettB  Administrator

Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 71520 Location: Phoenix 602
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Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:42 pm Post subject: Re: Rimco |
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DesignBuild wrote: |
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I had problems:
3) RIMCO align bored my case and balanced the rotating mass. I asked for main bearings to fit. They sold me STD bearings for a .25 crank. My engine failed within 5 minutes of running in. |
You didn't check the clearances with Plasitgage? That is standard practice. I've never heard of someone not checking the bearing to shaft clearances when assembling the engine. You could have avoided this destruction by checking the clearance. It isn't their fault that you didn't check the clearance before starting the engine.
I suggest you learn how to do a rebuild. Getting Bob Hoover's pdf off Scribd just might help you in the future. He explains how to use Plastigage or is it Plastigauge?
Plastigage source link: https://a.co/d/98oe6BN |
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DesignBuild Samba Member
Joined: September 29, 2016 Posts: 401 Location: HOUSTON, TEXAS
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Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:34 am Post subject: Re: Rimco / Fat Performance / Hilldebrandt Machine |
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Yeah, I know, but others read these old postings and don't realize that the buyer is is responsible for determining if what was purchased was the correct thing before using it.
The destroyed engine is not anyone's fault but the jerk that didn't check the parts clearances.
Bob Hoover calls these people, "Kiddies" and he was correct in his assumption that this hobby group is loaded with "Kiddies". That is one of the reasons there is so much high priced crappy reproduction parts. Though I am not so sure that $1,500 for an engine block that is a reproduction of a part made without any significant improvements since the 1930s is a very good expenditure. There is the known defect in oil distribution between the block halves yet the new castings haven't corrected that defect. Why not make the casting so all stroked crankshafts fit without any additional clearance being done after the casting is made? The camshaft could be located lower in the block to reduce interference from longer stroke crankshafts. This can be done by modifying the ratio between the crankshaft gear and the camshaft gear. |
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vwinnovator Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2005 Posts: 1555 Location: Still doing it in the back of your VW
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Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:22 am Post subject: Re: Rimco / Fat Performance / Hilldebrandt Machine |
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“The buyer responsible “..lol
I’m not sure of that if the buyer is relying on the “expert” to provide correct components…
As for re-engineering engine cases…other companies are doing so, cost reflect that.
The redo existing molds “stock” cases to meet the aftermarket and high performance mods you describe would be costly and drive up their price as well.
Not to mention add a necessity to require additional non std larger cam crank gears purchasing. |
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Braukuche Samba Member
Joined: September 03, 2004 Posts: 11204
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Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 8:36 am Post subject: Re: Rimco / Fat Performance / Hilldebrandt Machine |
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vwinnovator wrote: |
“The buyer responsible “..lol
I’m not sure of that if the buyer is relying on the “expert” to provide correct components…
As for re-engineering engine cases…other companies are doing so, cost reflect that.
The redo existing molds “stock” cases to meet the aftermarket and high performance mods you describe would be costly and drive up their price as well.
Not to mention add a necessity to require additional non std larger cam crank gears purchasing. |
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DesignBuild Samba Member
Joined: September 29, 2016 Posts: 401 Location: HOUSTON, TEXAS
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Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:54 pm Post subject: Re: Rimco / Fat Performance / Hilldebrandt Machine |
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Among any group of professional engine builders, that excuse doesn't pass muster.
I remember rebuilding my first engine from my 1951 Studebaker in 1971 and my mentor told me, "check every thing, check the piston rings gap clearance, piston to cylinder clearance, all of the plain bearing clearances with shim stock or plastigage." He also said when I questioned what about the factory supplied bearings of the correct size? "Do you know if the bearings in that box are actually the size that you need without checking them?" I had to admit that I didn't know for sure. Then he said,"That is why we check them." He added, "When I went to the Studebaker Training School we were told to check all bearings in the engine for proper clearance because things get mis-boxed or miss labeled all the time." "It only takes a few minutes to be sure."
My mentor told me that this is what is called 'common sense' and that seems to be in short supply now. That could be why Robert Hoover referred to most of the VW crowd as 'Kiddies'. Kiddies rarely have any common sense because they have no experience. If this Kiddie had been rebuilding the engine for someone else whose fault would it have been when the engine failed on startup? |
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risk Samba Member

Joined: June 24, 2004 Posts: 724 Location: Stumpbroke, Arkansas
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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2024 10:41 am Post subject: Re: Rimco / Fat Performance / Hilldebrandt Machine |
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Are these guys out of business? None of their phone numbers are working, website is dead, their facebook has not posted anything since 2020. |
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tommu  Samba Member

Joined: November 15, 2011 Posts: 661 Location: L.A.
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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2024 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: Rimco |
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DesignBuild wrote: |
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I had problems:
3) RIMCO align bored my case and balanced the rotating mass. I asked for main bearings to fit. They sold me STD bearings for a .25 crank. My engine failed within 5 minutes of running in. |
You didn't check the clearances with Plasitgage? That is standard practice. I've never heard of someone not checking the bearing to shaft clearances when assembling the engine. You could have avoided this destruction by checking the clearance. It isn't their fault that you didn't check the clearance before starting the engine.
I suggest you learn how to do a rebuild. Getting Bob Hoover's pdf off Scribd just might help you in the future. He explains how to use Plastigage or is it Plastigauge?
Plastigage source link: https://a.co/d/98oe6BN |
We're talking case bearings and good luck with plastigage on anything other than the center main bearings. Try using a bore gauge - might help your engine building.
This was a feedback thread for a machine shop not an opportunity for you to stroke your ego. If anyone's reading the feedback forum to learn how to build an engine then they're already fucked.
Literally everything they touched they fucked. They ruined the case, missed a flaw in the crank, sold me a balanced set of rods that were 10 grammes out and sold me the wrong sized bearings. Should I have noticed the bearings - yep lesson learnt. But they assed everything else up so badly that it didn't matter in the end. _________________
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DesignBuild Samba Member
Joined: September 29, 2016 Posts: 401 Location: HOUSTON, TEXAS
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Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2025 3:20 am Post subject: Re: Rimco / Fat Performance / Hilldebrandt Machine |
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I'm not stroking my ego. I just seems that many folks don't know that they should check to make sure what they bought is what they got. To me that is common sense. But maybe it isn't common sense to some folks. |
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