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DuncanS Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:17 am Post subject: Re: South African T3 "Vanagon" 1992-2002 |
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You bet. Amazed there hasn't been talk of this before. If I'da known, I wooda have flown over there before I bought the current '91.
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khughes Samba Member
Joined: July 13, 2013 Posts: 914 Location: Phoenix AZ
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 11:34 am Post subject: Re: South African T3 "Vanagon" 1992-2002 |
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| With you, Dave, want one. RHD wouldn't be a problem for me. |
RHD is no problem for me either. Left hand shift - that's a different critter altogether. Maybe I'm just uncoordinated, but a week and a half driving a 5sp Jetta around Ireland and I still couldn't shift without concentrating on it! Learned my lesson - rented an automatic (a Holden small SUV) and drove 5K miles around Australia without any problems (well, a couple speeding tickets, but...) _________________ '86 Westy FAS GenV Turbo (Marvin) |
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Schnippzle Samba Member
Joined: February 04, 2021 Posts: 288 Location: Swede in London, UK
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:20 pm Post subject: Re: South African T3 "Vanagon" 1992-2002 |
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I've imported a few parts from SA to the UK. The places I've dealt with are generally very happy to accommodate but purchase costs are high and logistics & tax/import charges almost equal them.
The grilles and panels without the sliding door runner are of particular interest. _________________ 1988 Caravelle - FB25B - Syncro converted
2016 MB E63 AMG S - The daily driver
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MsTaboo  Samba Member

Joined: June 02, 2006 Posts: 4620 Location: East Kootenay, British Columbia
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:32 pm Post subject: Re: South African T3 "Vanagon" 1992-2002 |
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Don't forget the 25 year rule for importing into America unless you want to pay big $ tax. So that 2002 can come in around 2027.
Now here in Canada it's only 15 years .
I don't really see an advantage to dealing with RHD. That's why I was looking into getting just the sheet metal and parts for converting a NA vehicle with the newer scoop/air exchange setup.
There are plenty of engine conversions that will give similar results to the factory 5s.
Anti-lock brakes would be nice, maybe parts for that system? Maybe a pre 1997 parts car?
But is it worth the money and effort to import a 25 year old parts car? Shipping alone is about $3000. _________________ Currently:
'90 Syncro Westy 3 knob w/Zetec
The information age has morphed into the age of disinformation and willful ignorance. Agnotology!
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Backtotheeighties Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2022 Posts: 14 Location: Uk
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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:55 am Post subject: Re: South African T3 "Vanagon" 1992-2002 |
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Eventually vw got the right engines at the end.
Why they didn't do a bit more work on top of the 1.6 diesel and fit the 1.8 gti rabbit motor is a mystery. Just design another overcomplicated engine with new faults for more money instead....
The SA built ones aren't the same a a German built one -build quality may vary..
Ps Porsche built there own1.8 gti company bus about 1982 so someone new. Obviously for porsche it wasn't enough, 3.2 was. |
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Twan Samba Member

Joined: July 31, 2015 Posts: 82 Location: Longmont, CO
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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:33 pm Post subject: Re: South African T3 "Vanagon" 1992-2002 |
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Like briefly mentioned above, Jan 1997 and older are eligible under the 25 year import rule. _________________ 1984 2wd 7 Passenger Tin Top |
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Russel 235 Samba Member
Joined: February 05, 2017 Posts: 13 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:55 am Post subject: Re: South African T3 "Vanagon" 1992-2002 |
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Production was not moved from Germany to SA. SA started building its own T3's from 1987 onwards with unique RHD body shells and then changing the body style to the big windows from 1990. SA also built their own syncros from 1987 till end of 1992. Only aproximatly 3500 syncros were built in SA. A lot of the syncro parts stock that was still in SA has already been bought up and shipped to the US. SA is not abundant with syncro's and parts like suggested above but local owner struggle for parts especially gearbox parts. 2WD vehicles were manufactured in SA from 1987 till June 2002. Before this 2WD's were assembled in SA.
The big window vehicle had many upgrades compared to the earlier vehicles from chassi, body panels and doors, electrical, engines, interiour trim and seats, updated aircon, unrated brakes etc. |
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Russel 235 Samba Member
Joined: February 05, 2017 Posts: 13 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:58 am Post subject: Re: South African T3 "Vanagon" 1992-2002 |
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| SA built vehicles did not have ABS and the rear air intake/ cabin exhaust panel will not fit a German built vehicle. |
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Russel 235 Samba Member
Joined: February 05, 2017 Posts: 13 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:07 am Post subject: Re: South African T3 "Vanagon" 1992-2002 |
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Here are a few photos of my 1992 Syncro.
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Crankey Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:42 am Post subject: Re: South African T3 "Vanagon" 1992-2002 |
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I don't see any difference in the front doors.
It would be nice to see VW make a run of the SA bumpers. |
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Russel 235 Samba Member
Joined: February 05, 2017 Posts: 13 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:54 am Post subject: Re: South African T3 "Vanagon" 1992-2002 |
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List of body panel that are different.
Sliding door
Front doors
Rear 1/4 panels
Tailgate
Front wings
Chassi
Panel below windscreen
Rear valance
Sliding door runner cover
3 solid side panels
There is a small modification to A pillars to acomodate the rap arround lower grill.
If you look, there are less swage lines in all the side panels including doors. |
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DuncanS Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2013 Posts: 4583 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 10:33 pm Post subject: Re: South African T3 "Vanagon" 1992-2002 |
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OK, The S & T quote was on a trip so that was a bad selection, but how about this one?
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With you, Dave, want one. RHD wouldn't be a problem for me.
Back in the Jurassic, my parents went to Spain on a jaunt and picked up a Hillman Minx convertible as a rental and drove all over the place. It had inside landau bars and a feature that allowed the front half of the top to be folded back while keeping the back half up. Like an early sunroof. Great, it kept the sun off your neck and the ladies hair under control. They loved it so much they brought it back to the US. RHD. A gas to drive. A bit awkward if you wanted to pass someone, but it didn't have enough power to pass anyone anyway. And at night your eyes were farther from the other lane so it was fine. And of course, was a girl grabber as no one had ever seen one. Tan top and red leather upholstery. Very jaunty. Not the best made car, British engineering and Lucas instruments. Had it for years and years. The only problem was the front bearing of the starter motor was exposed and right where the front tire would toss road crud on it. After about 20k miles, it wouldn't start. No problem. We took a 2 x 4 and shaped it with a narrow shaft so it would fit among hoses, etc. A nicely shaped handle. Open the hood and whack the starter motor a few times and off you would go for another week or so, then whack again.
Just remembered it had a 4 speed tranny while US cars only had three. Easy, 4 speed pattern for your left hand and 3 for your right. NP
Exposed motor bearings? T3 front heater motor? Guess protecting bearings on the other side of the pond isn't something they are good at. Wonder if the SA T3 fixed that? I know they added relays and fixed some wiring issues. Definitely want one and love the huge back side window opening. Can't wait to get my hands on one and whack the roof out and do other stupid stuff.
AND NO SALT DOWN THERE!!!!
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Not trying to pic a fight here, just wondering what the criteria really is.
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DuncanS Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2013 Posts: 4583 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 10:36 pm Post subject: Re: South African T3 "Vanagon" 1992-2002 |
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Sorry, Wrong topic.
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