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Butcher
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 Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:49 am Post subject: Re: Fuse box worries. Things melting |
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| crazyvwvanman wrote: |
| Your underlying assumption is mistaken. The relay kits weren't designed to take the load out of the fuse box. |
The relay is designed to take most of the load out of the entire original circuit. That would be the switches, connectors, and fuse box. Done right, the only load that would be left in the circuit what is needed to operate the relay. |
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crazyvwvanman
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| Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:20 am Post subject: Re: Fuse box worries. Things melting |
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These relay kits were a response to common failures of the 3 switches in the original headlight wiring path. They do what they were designed to do, take those 3 switches out of the main current path. As I have already stated, a kit with a more comprehensive approach would be nice. That is a bit more complicated but is what I have done on some of my vans. Go for it.
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Wildthings
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| Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:35 am Post subject: Re: Fuse box worries. Things melting |
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| Even with a headlight relay you need to protect the wiring with fuses or circuit breakers. A relay is not a panacea. |
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montanasurfer
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 9:27 am Post subject: Re: Fuse box worries. Things melting |
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Anyone have a source on where I could buy pins like these to rebuild an electrical connector?
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jlrftype7
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 2:08 pm Post subject: Re: Fuse box worries. Things melting |
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Anyone have a source on where I could buy pins like these to rebuild an electrical connector? |
Digikey or electrical connector supplier?
Can’t remember if Bel-Metric stocks any of the round pins, worth a look.
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Red Ryder
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 2:49 pm Post subject: Re: Fuse box worries. Things melting |
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| Butcher wrote: |
| crazyvwvanman wrote: |
| Your underlying assumption is mistaken. The relay kits weren't designed to take the load out of the fuse box. |
The relay is designed to take most of the load out of the entire original circuit. That would be the switches, connectors, and fuse box. Done right, the only load that would be left in the circuit what is needed to operate the relay. |
100% correct!
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oceanair
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 2:57 pm Post subject: Re: Fuse box worries. Things melting |
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Just get LED bulbs that match the original wattage and don't overload the wiring... plenty of lumens...
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Red Ryder
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 3:08 pm Post subject: Re: Fuse box worries. Things melting |
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Hate to state the obvious but…
Simply replacing the damaged multi-pin connector will be a band-aid. Determining the original cause of the problem (e.g., high wattage bulbs, poor ground, improper placement of relays) is important to avoid another meltdown in the future. Start with a survey of any non-factory wiring or connections related to the headlight circuit
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montanasurfer
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 5:38 pm Post subject: Re: Fuse box worries. Things melting |
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| montanasurfer wrote: |
Anyone have a source on where I could buy pins like these to rebuild an electrical connector? |
Digikey or electrical connector supplier?
Can’t remember if Bel-Metric stocks any of the round pins, worth a look. |
Oh wow, digikey looks like the ticket! Now the next question is, what the hell is that pin called?
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do.dah
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 5:44 pm Post subject: Re: Fuse box worries. Things melting |
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| montanasurfer wrote: |
| jlrftype7 wrote: |
| montanasurfer wrote: |
Anyone have a source on where I could buy pins like these to rebuild an electrical connector? |
Digikey or electrical connector supplier?
Can’t remember if Bel-Metric stocks any of the round pins, worth a look. |
Oh wow, digikey looks like the ticket! Now the next question is, what the hell is that pin called? |
Or van cafe;
https://vancafe.com/vanagon-ac-connector/
You get 2 large pins and 2 small pins. |
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montanasurfer
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 6:50 pm Post subject: Re: Fuse box worries. Things melting |
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| do.dah wrote: |
| montanasurfer wrote: |
| jlrftype7 wrote: |
| montanasurfer wrote: |
Anyone have a source on where I could buy pins like these to rebuild an electrical connector? |
Digikey or electrical connector supplier?
Can’t remember if Bel-Metric stocks any of the round pins, worth a look. |
Oh wow, digikey looks like the ticket! Now the next question is, what the hell is that pin called? |
Or van cafe;
https://vancafe.com/vanagon-ac-connector/
You get 2 large pins and 2 small pins. |
Heck yeah! Thanks!
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Jan Steinman
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: Fuse box worries. Things melting |
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| montanasurfer wrote: |
| Now the next question is, what the hell is that pin called? |
It looks like a Molex might x-ref it.
You could also use a pin-removal tool. You can find them on evilBay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/323635810880?mkcid=16&...media=COPY |
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