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dustymojave
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 Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:45 am Post subject: Re: Strange Bug Eye Kit |
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| weasel_ugs wrote: |
| I guess this might get interesting, I plan on putting this nose on mine with the old housings but plan on using the H3 conversion housing with halogen bulbs. |
That will work if you do as I said above and re-notch the housing rims to fit the 12V Reflectors. Just 6 snips with tin snips per headlight, one for each side of each locator nub, and there are 3 nubs per light. Then fold the metal between the snips toward the back.
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Offroading VW based cars since 1965
Tech Inspection 1963 - 2012 SCCA/SCORE/HDRA/MORE/MDR +
Retired from building Bajas, Fiberglass Buggies and Rails in the Mojave Desert. Also Sprints & Midgets, Dry Lakes, Road Race cars. All types New and Vintage
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weasel_ugs
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| Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:44 pm Post subject: Re: Strange Bug Eye Kit |
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| I guess this might get interesting, I plan on putting this nose on mine with the old housings but plan on using the H3 conversion housing with halogen bulbs. |
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dustymojave
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| Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:57 am Post subject: Re: Strange Bug Eye Kit |
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You can exchange the bulbs. But as they have different nubs on the back side of the rim of the glass bulb to locate them, you need to do a little tin snip surgery to the bulb holder to fit the 12V bulb in the 6V housing.
I converted my '58 Bug to 12V before I cut the body to make it a Baja. So I ran it for a while as stock body with 12V bulbs all around.
But when I converted it to a Baja, it got 12V '67 headlight housings.
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Offroading VW based cars since 1965
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weasel_ugs
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| Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:55 am Post subject: Re: Strange Bug Eye Kit |
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| dustymojave wrote: |
| The Baja kits that use the 6V headlights were widely available in SoCal in the late 60s and early 70s. Most preferred to use the 12V headlights. For one thing most converted their 6V Bugs to 12V anyway. Lots of folks felt the 6V headlights looked odd in the Baja nose. I saw the 6V noses for sale at a fiberglass shop alongside the highway through Tijuana to Ensenada in the mid 70s. Miller Havens made the original fiberglass Baja kits. But there for a while, there were MANY people making them. |
Cant you just take the 6v headlamp out and put the 12v lamp in the old housings? |
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dustymojave
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| Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:19 pm Post subject: Re: Strange Bug Eye Kit |
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The Baja kits that use the 6V headlights were widely available in SoCal in the late 60s and early 70s. Most preferred to use the 12V headlights. For one thing most converted their 6V Bugs to 12V anyway. Lots of folks felt the 6V headlights looked odd in the Baja nose. I saw the 6V noses for sale at a fiberglass shop alongside the highway through Tijuana to Ensenada in the mid 70s. Miller Havens made the original fiberglass Baja kits. But there for a while, there were MANY people making them.
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DHale_510
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| Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:42 am Post subject: Re: Strange Bug Eye Kit |
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This car was built in 1967 with a very early kit, before the front fenders were made as I recall. It has cut down steel stock front fenders, the originals to the car as I recall. The rears have been replaced several times and are now cut down fiberglass rears from a later model wide eye front application.
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weasel_ugs
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| Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:55 pm Post subject: Re: Strange Bug Eye Kit |
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| tjet wrote: |
I'm resurrecting an early baja. It came with the same early nose that uses the pre-67 headlights (in a box). But, it's missing the hood and front fenders.
Can I use the same hood/fenders from the later bug-eye baja kit? (similar to the kit below with the '67 & up headlights). Also, how does one attach the nose?
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2292726
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I recently picked up the same nose for my baja, it looks like the standard bug eye kit will work with that nose. |
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Mal evolent
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tjet
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| Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:39 pm Post subject: Re: Strange Bug Eye Kit |
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I'm resurrecting an early baja. It came with the same early nose that uses the pre-67 headlights (in a box). But, it's missing the hood and front fenders.
Can I use the same hood/fenders from the later bug-eye baja kit? (similar to the kit below with the '67 & up headlights). Also, how does one attach the nose?
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2292726
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weasel_ugs
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| Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:53 pm Post subject: Re: Strange Bug Eye Kit |
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| That would look cool on my '65, wish they still made them. |
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surfer510
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| Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:43 am Post subject: Re: Strange Bug Eye Kit |
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| Ok so I know this thread has been dead forever but. I am restoring an old school Baja and it has this nose. It's destroyed and I can't patch the fiberglass so I need a replacement. I rennet about a year ago maybe longer someone has some they were making in the classifieds. Of course can't find it now. So if anyone knows who it was and if they could still make one let me know. Also anyone has one that they would be willing to part with hit me up it's def needed and after seeing it up close I love the old buckets in there. Thanks all as usual. |
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El Vocho
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| Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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So..... Is it a Johnnys kit or not.
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BajaRoy
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currently, researching on old JSC catalog.
Tim10, do you happen to have a pic's of the real thing?
are you refer to the below bugeye kit?
Real or not real, still a big mystery here. |
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Tim10
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90% of this mock up aren't the real thing..
The nose on the real deal has a "body line" in the buckets that resolve at the bottom.. there's no license plate relief on the real thing.
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BajaRoy
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| Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:33 pm Post subject: Mystery Baja Kit still mystery after 8years. |
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| Johnny's Speed and Chrome in Buena Park sold them in the 60's. Look in there old catalogs. I installed one on a 1954 bug in 1968. |
Thank you, this is a great news I received in last 8years.
I saw old 60's movie with this baja nose.
First Fiberglass Baja kit was produced by Haven Miller in 1968.
this first baja kits are the bug eye kit with later 67up headlights.
is this makes my kit older than known baja kits?
hope I can ID this kit. anybody with any informations are appriciated.
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VWHoward
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| Johnny's Speed and Chrome in Buena Park sold them in the 60's. Look in there old catalogs. I installed one on a 1954 bug in 1968. |
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TimGud
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Did you ever identify the maker of this baja kit Roy?
Anyone else know or have a good idea where these kits are from? |
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roy kohrogi
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here is the bucket picture. belongs to my friend's 56 ragtop.
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roy kohrogi
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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My nose piece has a metal buckets already installed on it.
I have a couple extra nose pieces but no metal buckets.
this came from 7years of hard work from searching various swap meet like Pomona.funny part is when you find it ,a price is anywhere from free~$5.00~$20.00max.
some nose is thicker fiberglass than others.
some came yellow color as an original & thinner fiberglass.
Yellow color remind me of the early JSC kit.
Yes Empi did produced fiberglass baja and buggy kits.
( i will research this one)
Meyer manx also produced a baja kit, with an indentations on the front hood. |
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TimGud
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Looks like the same front end. The hood is inside the car and looks identical to the one on yours. Sorry no pics of that yet.
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Hi Tim Gud
Yes the above photo is an identical baja kit.
Some kit came without the metal headlight buckets.
wish I know more about this unusual & unique Baja kit.
So far most of the kit I saw was on the early Bug like pre 1960.
Some guy told me as the kit was early “Haven Miller kit” but,
Looking through old hot vw and 1968 edition “how to Built Baja Bug”
Shows the regular bug eye kit as very first fiberglass Baja kit. |
Did empi make a baja kit in the early days? This one had empi flared fenders inthe rear, wod empi knobs on the dash, and the black stripe kit. Even the front fenders look somewhat like empi flared fenders (but not exactly).
Does yours have the metal headlight buckets installed into the fiberglass or just the early light assemblies bolted into the fiberglass? |
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