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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 5:49 am    Post subject: Re: Zarwerks shop spy cam .... Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2025 8:59 am    Post subject: Re: Zarwerks shop spy cam .... Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2025 8:53 am    Post subject: Re: Zarwerks shop spy cam .... Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 7:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Zarwerks shop spy cam .... Reply with quote

Very impressive (+ didactic as usual JH, Thanks for imparting your insights and considerable expertise!
I've wondered what sort of black magic or druidic incantations you deployed in returning my '52 semaphore to pristine condition?
You sir, are truly the "dojo of semaphore esoterica...and I remain endebted to you for certain!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 6:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Zarwerks shop spy cam .... Reply with quote

Here's something a bit out of my area of expertise and some really cool thing I figured out. One of those things that you turn over in your head for days, then think "I'm just going to try it today".

One of my good friends in the hobby gave me an NOS Vert smooth sem that had a bent arm and a warped lens to try and fix. The arm was a piece of cake. The lens I fiddle with a bit, then tried to clamp a "mold" inside it and put it in a little oven in my shop at around 200F.

Within a few minutes the lens was completely trashed. Yes, the rare "Orange Juice" colored, vert only lens.

I panicked for a bit, then reached out to a well known semaphore restorer in Canada. He had 5 of them, one NOS or near to it, and 4 others that were badly warped. He sold me the NOS one and gave me the other 4. I told that I'd try to straighten them.

The problem with these lenses, is that over time, they warp, and shrink. In original shape, the top edges of the lens should be slightly convex. When they warp, they go concave at the top edge, and the overall length shrinks by as much as 1/4". Installed in the sem, ugly gaps are seen.

Here is a pic of a warped one in the sem:

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A gap is seen between the arm and sem lens.

You can see this with the lens on a flat surface:

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So I had this idea to make a wooden "buck" for the lens and then soften it by putting in boiling water. Made from a very hard Poplar wood, it was a bit less than 2 hours with a scroll saw and Dremel to make this thing:

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With a lens on the tool, I made a mark in the wood at the back edge of the NOS lens. In this pic, a "shrunk" lens is used, and you can see that it comes up well short of the mark.

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Looking at the top edge of the lens, you can see that it doesn't follow the contour of the top surface of the tool which was carefully sanded to match the curve of the NOS lens.

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Here is a pic of the NOS lens on the tool. The top edge of the lens matches the contour of the tool, and the back end of it meets the reference mark:

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Here is lens in the boiling water. I use a mini "Fry Baby" deep fryer, and prior to stretching the lens, I immerse all of in the boiling water EXCEPT for the very back end where the screw hole is.

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And here's the really cool trick (I am really surprised this really worked, and proud of myself for coming up with it!). There is a hole drilled in the wooden tool right where the screw hole in the lens is. In the shrunken lens case, the holes don't line up. But using an awl (after boiling the lens for about 15 seconds), I could grab the lens hole with the awl, and apply pressure and pull the end of the lens, stretching it. It worked perfectly. The fact that the bolt hole area of the lens was left out of the boiling water insures that the lens doesn't stretch there, or distort the bolt hole in the lens.


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After stretching, the back end of the lens reaches the reference mark:

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Next, is the warping. A 2 handed operation while plastic is hot, so no cell phone pic. But I dunk the lens again for 15 seconds or so in the boiling water, then wrap it in a towel, both thumbs in the underneath center of the lens, and push up and hold. After a few seconds holding that, I dunk the lens in a container of cool water.

Here you can see it follows the contour of the tools top surface a little better:

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Repeat. Now even better:

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This lens has a small crack near its nose end (Always use your WORST part when trying some now modification/repair). But it now matches the tool dimensions perfectly.

Back in the sem with no ugly gaps!

One thing I did find was that after a few hot water dunks, the wooden tool started to swell but, pushing the sides of the lens out. Have to let it dry out a bit before using it again. I use a wood moisture tester and when it get back below 6% or so, I can use it again.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 6:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Zarwerks shop spy cam .... Reply with quote

scarabee wrote:
Everyone tinkering with old cars should at least have a small welder at home. Entry level flux core welders are cheap and can be very useful at home. Practicing on scrap metal will make you get the hang of it very quickly.


I'll agree except don't waste your time on flux core welders. Even their best welds are crappy. I took the bait and years later bought an entry level Lincoln 120 volt MIG welder with C25 bottle. Wished I hadn't wasted those years with a flux core welder.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2024 12:43 am    Post subject: Re: Zarwerks shop spy cam .... Reply with quote

Everyone tinkering with old cars should at least have a small welder at home. Entry level flux core welders are cheap and can be very useful at home. Practicing on scrap metal will make you get the hang of it very quickly.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 10:48 am    Post subject: Re: Zarwerks shop spy cam .... Reply with quote

Jacks wrote:
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Fine, but not everybody has welding equipment or experience.


You can do it with a profi and sometimes save a lot of time. (imo, johnshenry x2)
What is a profi?


Sorry, "profi" is german for "professional".
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 9:04 am    Post subject: Re: Zarwerks shop spy cam .... Reply with quote

wagen19 wrote:
Martin Southwell wrote:
Fine, but not everybody has welding equipment or experience.


You can do it with a profi and sometimes save a lot of time. (imo, johnshenry x2)
What is a profi?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 6:30 am    Post subject: Re: Sttering Box Service Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 5:23 am    Post subject: Re: Zarwerks shop spy cam .... Reply with quote

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What's wrong with drilling and tapping?


if you aren't perfectly centered in the hole you will have issues when you tap it.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2024 7:50 am    Post subject: Re: Zarwerks shop spy cam .... Reply with quote

Martin Southwell wrote:
Fine, but not everybody has welding equipment or experience.


You can do it with a profi and sometimes save a lot of time. (imo, johnshenry x2)
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2024 6:14 am    Post subject: Re: Zarwerks shop spy cam .... Reply with quote

Fine, but not everybody has welding equipment or experience.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2024 8:53 am    Post subject: Re: Zarwerks shop spy cam .... Reply with quote

Martin Southwell wrote:
What's wrong with drilling and tapping?


In my experience:

Drilling and tapping: 1-127

MIG metal extraction: 74-1
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2024 8:19 am    Post subject: Re: Zarwerks shop spy cam .... Reply with quote

What's wrong with drilling and tapping?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 9:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Zarwerks shop spy cam .... Reply with quote

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In the case of a snapped off fastener with no rust locking it in place, an easyout probably would work fine.


True.

The effectiveness of the MIG method for rusted/seized shanks it the intense heat that the welding puts into them. I let them cool a bit, then apply a penetrating oil like Kroil on them. I have rescued so many "that shit's not coming out" snapped off stuff with it. I am pretty sure I have never failed. Sometimes it takes lots of donor nuts and re-welds to get it. My record for smallest is a steel M2.5 grub screw in a brass barrel.


I LOVE the fender washer with a nut welding regiment. But on tiny fasteners, reversible drill bits work great! You start drilling on the broken shaft as if you were going to utilize an EZ Out, BUT, when the bit catches during the drilling, it will actually twist the broken shaft out! Works great!

I have a full set of reversing drill bits, 1/32” up to 1/2”! I have used them on multiple occasions!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:29 pm    Post subject: Sttering Box Service Reply with quote

Great thread ! .
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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2024 3:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Zarwerks shop spy cam .... Reply with quote

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In the case of a snapped off fastener with no rust locking it in place, an easyout probably would work fine.


True.

The effectiveness of the MIG method for rusted/seized shanks it the intense heat that the welding puts into them. I let them cool a bit, then apply a penetrating oil like Kroil on them. I have rescued so many "that shit's not coming out" snapped off stuff with it. I am pretty sure I have never failed. Sometimes it takes lots of donor nuts and re-welds to get it. My record for smallest is a steel M2.5 grub screw in a brass barrel.
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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2024 10:59 am    Post subject: Re: Zarwerks shop spy cam .... Reply with quote

This is a very good method.

In the case of a snapped off fastener with no rust locking it in place, an easyout probably would work fine. If it won't turn easily, I quit immediately. I never use them if the fastener is stuck by rust or tight interference fit though. That just doesn't work and makes things worse with the super hardened piece left in the bolt.

I have even used a worn down dremel cuttoff wheel to cut a slot for a screwdriver, but then again, only for a fastener that is not locked in place by rust.

I once broke off a 8/32 tap in a piece of cast iron I was cutting some threads into and thought I was screwed but I tapped on the end of it with a punch a few times and used some needle nose pliers to grab the flutes and it backed right out.
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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2024 5:56 am    Post subject: Re: Zarwerks shop spy cam .... Reply with quote

Great idea. Thanks for sharing.
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