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connectibles Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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Well thank you for allowing the post and for answering my initial questions. All I know is what the original owner told us which is they were made for his family's VW Beetle car in the 1960's. Appreciate the input, I've described all I know as best I can. Guess nothing left to add; enjoy your terrific cars and restoration. We are a Mustang family with 66 convertible, I know nothing about these cars which is why I came for info.
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coad  Samba Scapegoat

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Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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I think you're trying to turn a box of matches into a lumberyard.
Without some proof those were made to fit a Volkswagen, all you have is a couple of skinny suitcases. |
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connectibles Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 2:13 pm Post subject: Size comparison of luggage |
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| Apparently the original VW largest suitcase was 34-1/2" x 18". Ours are 32" x 16-1/2" by comparison. |
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connectibles Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2014 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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You're not being a downer, as I know they are not the ones in the photo and I welcome input. These were NOT made in Germany, they were custom designed for the original family here in the US by the Warren Company, maker of fine luggage and cases. I do not have a Bug to test, but have give exact dimensions so you can measure yourself and then decide if they will work in your car or whether you should pass. Others have indicated to me that they will work in 1962-1965 Bugs only; after that the trunk dimensions changed. Again, I cannot confirm this, only suggest you use the measurements and compare to size of your own trunk.
Thanks for taking a look! |
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hitest Samba Member

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Posted: Sun May 11, 2014 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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Wow- you bought them today, and listed them on Fleabay today. How do they fit in a bug? Did you test fit them in a bug?
Not to be Debi Downer- but those don't look like the cases in the VW literature, nor does that 1960 brochure talk about mid 60s accessories made in America. I'm an old luggage guy- so for 400 bones- the ad is not compete. I would not bid until I saw several pictures of those in a VW- and proof they were made for it. Once proof is made- price is right. _________________
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connectibles Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2014 6:11 am Post subject: Custom Leather Suitcases, told they were made for VW Beetle |
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We just got these 2 leather suitcases by Warren today at a local auction, and I purchased thinking they were just interesting vintage leather suitcases which we have great luck selling. When I picked them up, the auctioneer told me they were custom made to be suitcases for the 1960's VW Beetles, something I never knew existed. I'd like to be sure I am describing them right and able to reach the right collectors when I list them tonight. Can anybody here shed some light on them? They are slightly different inside, so I believe one is for a woman and other for a man; different monograms on the side. 32" x 16-1/2" x 5-1/2, very unusual size. Thanks for any direction regarding them!
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Peter_Plade Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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With help from a friend a made the brackets for the suitcase.
I have to relocate the fuel sender for the rally gauge set.
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Peter_Plade Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:49 am Post subject: |
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I just bought one of these front suitcases, so my question is now,
is there anyone that has the original brackets to put it in? Or maybe just some good pictures?
I have this little picture from a accessory brochure that I have.
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Dangermouse Samba Member

Joined: November 23, 2005 Posts: 1330 Location: Beautiful New Zealand
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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Ever seen one of these?
We were given this case some time back, as you can see it's a perfect fit for the rear luggage compartment and we were told at the time that it was an original VW accessory case. I've never seen another quite like it.
Is it likely a rare and/or valuable accessory?
'Cos if not, I'm going to turn it into a rear subwoofer case
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IN2VWS Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 4:37 am Post subject: |
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Finally found one in a 1956 Gute Fahrt magazine.
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justbuggin Resident Brit

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Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 3:29 am Post subject: |
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I'm pretty certain that I've seen a photo of this case in the front of a beetle, but it had a matching thin flat suitcase that sat below it. _________________ Rob
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Brezelwerks Samba Member

Joined: March 17, 2003 Posts: 1421 Location: Tyngsboro, MA
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 10:51 am Post subject: |
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Picture of it fitted is interesting, its arguably convincing that it was made to fit the beetle, as without the smaller side ends the case would not fit inside and allow for the hood to close, and neither would it float/slide much side to side. It appears very secure and intentionally designed to fit that specific location. Agreed its not a VW designed/made ordered item, but something almost any luggage maker at the time would of designed (as an improvement) and fabricated for the beetle and sold in various ways.
As for it resting partially on top of the tank, I don't see that as an issue for the time, as these cars were basically sold as utilitarian/functional vehicles. But in my opinion this suitcase was perhaps designed to fit the hump tank starting in 56, which allowed greater bonnet clearnance for things like luggage, seems it would be a more precise fit. But even if it was bought for earlier cars, the case is only a light vulcanfiber press board, it will perhaps leave a minor scuff mark, nothing that is going to scratch anywhere near down to even primer on the tank. A buyer at the time would be much more concerned about maximizing storage space inside a suitcase than maybe scuffing his tank. But most Germans I know would probably lay down a light blanket anyways to equally protect both the tank and the suitcase (or at least think of this when putting it in the car).
I can't see how the bow end would be helpful anywhere else inside the car, all other panels in the luggage area are flat and space is rectangular (as the rear luggage space is), there would be no reason for the bowed top, not an efficient use of space, and it would move around a bit. I'm a believer that such design features as a bowed top are built in for a reason, one of the things the Germans do best.
I'd pose the question about this case while at HO or Bad Camberg, as there will likely be a few of these in cars there, someone knows the exact history on these.
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volks_addict Samba Member

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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 4:22 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the follow up ..esp oildropman for the photo link...thats definitely the baby |
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IN2VWS Samba Member

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Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 12:40 am Post subject: |
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When looking at he picture, I doubt that VW would have supplied somthing that scratches the fuel tank everytime you turn a corner.
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OilDropMan Samba Member

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53 0val Samba Professor

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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Its actually a strange design feature I think for a bonnet suitcase. While it may help in not interfering on the side to side ends where the hood actually rolls down (depending upon how high this suitcase would be placed), the hood is mainly flat across the top and not rounded. So to some degree the bow may be more of a psychological (and creative marketing) selling feature, as a functional feature it does seem limited, would be an interesting thing to test out though.
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The curve on that suitcase is not meant to be on the top.......it is meant to curve against the back of the car it was designed for. Mercedes and BMW both have "fitted" suitcases that the curved sides are just that; sides.  _________________ "What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away." Dobee, Dobee, Do |
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Tempo man Samba Member
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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think it is for a VW. It might be for somthing more exotic.
That is not to say it can't be used in a VW, but it was not made for a VW.
Kind of like putting 356 rims on your car. They aren't made for VW, but they fit. |
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Brezelwerks Samba Member

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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 10:51 am Post subject: |
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Its actually a strange design feature I think for a bonnet suitcase. While it may help in not interfering on the side to side ends where the hood actually rolls down (depending upon how high this suitcase would be placed), the hood is mainly flat across the top and not rounded. So to some degree the bow may be more of a psychological (and creative marketing) selling feature, as a functional feature it does seem limited, would be an interesting thing to test out though.
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IN2VWS Samba Member

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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 6:31 am Post subject: |
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Hmmm.. OK. I would love to see pics from catalogs if anyone has any.
I agree with you that if anything it would be aftermarket. Definetly not genuine VW though.
It would be interesting to see a photo of it held close to the bonnet to see how close to the bonnet curve it is. _________________ ( ⫏ ⫐ )
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Brezelwerks Samba Member

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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 5:59 am Post subject: |
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I have seen this suitcase over the years a few times, its known to be specifically for a beetle and stored in the bonnet, but can't recall the exact maker, it was made aftermarket, as the bowed feature was the selling point. There was also a later (bigger and made of mostly plastic) 60's version of this style (with the bowed side) that had a label with a "bug-something" and a logo to match, also aftermarket. There were hundreds of non-VW (claptrapery) accessory things available for these feature challenged cars made during the 50's-60s.
As for whether or not the bowed feature made any difference or not, if you were stacking two of these thin suitcases in the bonnet, as there were 3, 4, and 5 pc luggage sets at one point or another, or on top of other stuff, perhaps this style on top under the bonnet would make sense, maybe not too, but I do think if you study the geometries here you can maximize your storage capacity under the bonnet by using this suitcase, someone would have to try it. The later 60's version mentioned was about twice as thick I would think for this reason.
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