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BulliBill
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Ah! I found a couple of photos of the VW dealership special service tool that I have that a technician would use to install a tamper evident lead & wire seal onto the closed-up cover of a Transporter "speed limiter" (governor) and then he would crush the new lead seal and impress a VW logo into the lead seal.
before: three old used and removed seals on the left, and a new ready-to-go lead and wire seal on the right.
during: the special service too with VW logo dies crushing the seal.
after: the the wire and seal are locked and the VW logo is impressed into the seal.
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tasb 
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2025 6:08 pm Post subject: Re: Yee Haw, got my governor working/adjusted! *Video!* |
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It all depends upon the part being discussed too. For example the ending letter suffix in the VW part number of distributors tells us what carburetor to match distributor too. It had nothing to do with molds or production date.
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70bus
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:56 pm Post subject: Re: Yee Haw, got my governor working/adjusted! *Video!* |
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That's the kind of fact about productionwork that would clear up many mysteries; as a hisory major decades ago, I dug around to see if there were interviews w/ Hanover and Wolfsburg workers, and there are... in German, of course! Also, many were about labor relations and societal issues as opposed to 'what was it like drilling holes for truckbed slats?'
Imagine what this guy could tell us?
besides '...the abyss stares back,' I mean.
Still, it would be nice if someone in Germany dug up what there was and put together a book about these things. I'd settle for a thesis paper!
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srfndoc
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:46 pm Post subject: Re: Yee Haw, got my governor working/adjusted! *Video!* |
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Anyone know what the numbers after '701G' represent? Maybe month of production? I have two bus 701G intakes and one has a 7 after the G and another has 11 after the G. |
Would guess the last number after the part number is the positive mold casting number, due to mass quantity production, so required many rather than only one mold. So when the parts got to quality control and a problem occurred with one of the molds they could instantly say that mold #X needed to be looked at and possibly to be repaired or outright replaced. |
That makes sense, thanks!
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tasb
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:45 pm Post subject: Re: Yee Haw, got my governor working/adjusted! *Video!* |
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That sounds right to me. A date code would have more digits.
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Eric&Barb
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:31 pm Post subject: Re: Yee Haw, got my governor working/adjusted! *Video!* |
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| srfndoc wrote: |
Anyone know what the numbers after '701G' represent? Maybe month of production? I have two bus 701G intakes and one has a 7 after the G and another has 11 after the G. |
Would guess the last number after the part number is the positive mold casting number, due to mass quantity production, so required many rather than only one mold. So when the parts got to quality control and a problem occurred with one of the molds they could instantly say that mold #X needed to be looked at and possibly to be repaired or outright replaced.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:56 am Post subject: Re: Yee Haw, got my governor working/adjusted! *Video!* |
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The example Everett posted has a '10'
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:49 am Post subject: Re: Yee Haw, got my governor working/adjusted! *Video!* |
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Anyone know what the numbers after '701G' represent? Maybe month of production? I have two bus 701G intakes and one has a 7 after the G and another has 11 after the G.
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BulliBill
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:43 am Post subject: Re: Yee Haw, got my governor working/adjusted! *Video!* |
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Hi all,
I kinda suspect that one of the main reasons for these "speed limiter" devices was to keep the engines in work Transporters alive a lot longer. Workers who didn't care to treasure or protect their employers work truck that the employee drove around might ocassionally (or even always) drive them abusively. To keep repairs and engine rebuilds down, "speed limiter" equipped engines could be set by either the employer or at the VW dealership to prevent over-reving. They could be sealed with a tamper-evident wire with lead seal.
I even have a special service dealership tool in my collection that was used by dealership mechanics to crush the lead seal on the wire while at the same time impressing a cool VW logo into the lead seal! This made it evident if anyone tampered with the speed limiter rpm settings...
I'm pretty sure I remember writing a whole article in my "Transporter Talk" Hot VWs article days all about these "speed limiters" if someone needs more info...
Bill Bowman
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tasb
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| Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2025 3:25 am Post subject: Re: Yee Haw, got my governor working/adjusted! *Video!* |
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The carburetor brace was only a feature of 36 hp engines. 40 hp onwards did not have a brace. Wether the Bus had a governor or not isn’t relevant. The brace may have been needed due the small size of the intake manifold. While on the topic; if the 36 hp engine had a governor the brace was shorter than the usual: making it quite rare.
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70bus
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| Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2025 9:30 pm Post subject: Re: Yee Haw, got my governor working/adjusted! *Video!* |
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Before I go install the one I have on my 1679... do the 1500 governors need a support bracket like the 36hp do?
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 8:50 pm Post subject: Re: Yee Haw, got my governor working/adjusted! *Video!* |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:35 pm Post subject: Re: Yee Haw, got my governor working/adjusted! *Video!* |
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So no gasket where it has the body rivets?
Anyway I bet it would be hard to get the icky carb-dip out if it got in the chamber. |
I don't see anything there on the ones I looked at.
I have one that has the cap loose, here's what it looks like with the cap removed:
It's had the entire valve removed too
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:39 am Post subject: Re: Yee Haw, got my governor working/adjusted! *Video!* |
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I was wondering if there is a seal in there too.
A seal could get damaged by carb. cleaner
I think it might only be a metal cylinder?
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I think I'll just put the cover back on and scrub it by hand. Thanks for everyone's input. byron
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BarryL
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:22 am Post subject: Re: Yee Haw, got my governor working/adjusted! *Video!* |
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| I think it might only be a metal cylinder? |
So no gasket where it has the body rivets?
Anyway I bet it would be hard to get the icky carb-dip out if it got in the chamber. |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:55 am Post subject: Re: Yee Haw, got my governor working/adjusted! *Video!* |
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It looks too clean to dip in the gnarly cleaner stuff. One reason not to dip it would be that there is a permanently sealed chamber with the piston in it that can get its seal eaten by the cleaner. |
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tasb
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:50 am Post subject: Re: Yee Haw, got my governor working/adjusted! *Video!* |
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Go ahead, there's nothing that can be hurt by a brief dunk. Make sure you relubricate, of course. It's good practice to reseal the cover too, so that its air tight.
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