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79SuperVert
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? If I'm not mistaken, a "coupe" by definition, is always 2 door. A "sedan" by definition is always 4 door. If this is wrong, I've been misinformed for 30 years. |
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That's not the greatest example (although a nice pic): VW called it a sedan because they were trying to market the bus as a station wagon and didn't want to confuse the issue. But of course that just confused everything even more.
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chickengeorge
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Mustang II and nine inch with stock motor and trans pushing 20's and 22's.
Done. |
see the link on ebay I posted before it was deleted? |
I did. I wouldn't peg you for a Shelby fan, at all.
Every day here at work, I sit about 30 feet from a '67 GT500 factory 4-speed car. |
Really? I love those cars- well, up 'til '68. The 68 and later Shelby's are pretty fugly. Elsinore from Gone in 60 seconds was ugly too.
Is it just a GT500 or a "R", KR"? Last weekend I was at Safeway and some guy had another one of my faves- a pumkin orange '70 Challenger R/T with a 440 Mag and a six pack. Yum!
I'm all over the place car wise. I saw on old man driving one of these today and got a little jealous.
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I would have too!
It's just a GT500 (just). I don't think they made "KR"s until '68. I'm not a mustang guy, but I've learned a bit purely from osmosis. The family I work for used to have a whole bunch of mustangs/shelbys. The last one sold was a red, 68 KR that only had 48,000 miles on it. It had one cylinder sleeved, but was untouched besides that. The GT500 was stolen when new, so the numbers engine is long gone. They've collected everything else to put it back together. Shit, even things like seat belts and steering wheels are thousands of dollars. It's nuts! It's also funny because the steering wheel is EXACTLY like an old Monza brand VW steering wheel that I have. They must have been made be the same company and badged differently. The car is sitting on it's side on a spit in the back room of our building.
MY boss also has a '67 convertible. Wimbledon white with red interior. It has a new 5.0 in it with a Rousch intake that makes it look like some kind of exotic Ferrari motor or something, Willwood disc brakes and a 6-speed. It's quite a car. |
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| I know a stationwagon when I see one. Too long to be a hatchback. Too square in the back to be a sedan. Yes, I think you have a stationwagon. |
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Patty B.
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Why does a chicken coop have 2 doors?
'Cause if it had 4 doors it would be a chicken sedan. |
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notchback
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This thread will probably get moved or locked because its not bus material but... I found a 31 Ford Model A coupe (4 door, suicide doors) yesterday. It is basically the frame, body, glass but it is in great shape. I was only able to find 2 small spots of rust-through.
Like this, but not as nice obviously. They want $2K for it.
http://www.stovebolt.com/gallery/alternate/gerdom_larry_1931modela.html
A hot rod project may be in my very near future. 
BTW: that is a cool barnfind. |
I've never seen a 4 door model a coupe, but there's always a first!
You'd have to pay me $2k for an unrestored 28- early 31' fordor sedan! They're full of wood... |
? If I'm not mistaken, a "coupe" by definition, is always 2 door. A "sedan" by definition is always 4 door. If this is wrong, I've been misinformed for 30 years. |
You're wrong.
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crofty
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Mustang II and nine inch with stock motor and trans pushing 20's and 22's.
Done. |
see the link on ebay I posted before it was deleted? |
I did. I wouldn't peg you for a Shelby fan, at all.
Every day here at work, I sit about 30 feet from a '67 GT500 factory 4-speed car. |
Really? I love those cars- well, up 'til '68. The 68 and later Shelby's are pretty fugly. Elsinore from Gone in 60 seconds was ugly too.
Is it just a GT500 or a "R", KR"? Last weekend I was at Safeway and some guy had another one of my faves- a pumkin orange '70 Challenger R/T with a 440 Mag and a six pack. Yum!
I'm all over the place car wise. I saw on old man driving one of these today and got a little jealous.
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coW
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:51 pm Post subject: Re: 1940 Barn Find Dodge |
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That's a sweet car! Thanks for sharing that one.
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johnnypan
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| No model A had suicide front doors...amazing how the vw-model A connection exists...started with a late 31 coupe as a boy,bought a 31 deluxe delivery as a teen for 1800,sold it for 2500...Top of my list for deals I wish I dint do....Doing vw now cause the A's are too spendy.... |
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chickengeorge
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| crofty wrote: |
| chickengeorge wrote: |
Mustang II and nine inch with stock motor and trans pushing 20's and 22's.
Done. |
see the link on ebay I posted before it was deleted? |
I did. I wouldn't peg you for a Shelby fan, at all.
Every day here at work, I sit about 30 feet from a '67 GT500 factory 4-speed car. |
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69 Jim
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azmodela
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If you read it on Wiki, it must be true. |
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azmodela
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| Model A had *two* different body styles of Fordor Sedans, to help further cloud the issue. One body was built by Murray, and another one was built by Briggs, with almost no interchangability bewteen the body parts. One has a slighly slanted back windshield, and the other one didn't, and that is the easiest way to quickly distinguish which body it is, although I can't remember right now which one is which... |
Close... Murray and Briggs did build fordor sedans for ford for 28-31. The bodies were almost identical between the makers with few exceptions for the cages around the body nuts and minor things like that. The biggest and most visible difference is the top of the arches for the windows on the doors. One had an arch, the other was flat across the top. The doors are about the only thing that's not interchangeable between the two.
In April 31', the fordor dropped the visor, and had a slightly slanted front windshield and A pillars as you mentioned. This was just a design change with Murray and Briggs continuing to make this body style. The slant window fordors also have the arched window for both makers, making it harder to tell who made the body. The slant windshield fordors are more desirable since there is considerably less wood. These cars have a metal structure, where the 28- early 31's had a wood substructure.
Briggs also made coupe bodies, but that's another story.... |
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crofty
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Mustang II and nine inch with stock motor and trans pushing 20's and 22's.
Done. |
see the link on ebay I posted before it was deleted?
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Dave
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Model A had *two* different body styles of Fordor Sedans, to help further cloud the issue. One body was built by Murray, and another one was built by Briggs, with almost no interchangability bewteen the body parts. One has a slighly slanted back windshield, and the other one didn't, and that is the easiest way to quickly distinguish which body it is, although I can't remember right now which one is which...
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69 Jim
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orangeeyesore
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| busmania24 wrote: |
This thread will probably get moved or locked because its not bus material but... I found a 31 Ford Model A coupe (4 door, suicide doors) yesterday. It is basically the frame, body, glass but it is in great shape. I was only able to find 2 small spots of rust-through.
Like this, but not as nice obviously. They want $2K for it.
http://www.stovebolt.com/gallery/alternate/gerdom_larry_1931modela.html
A hot rod project may be in my very near future.
BTW: that is a cool barnfind. |
I've never seen a 4 door model a coupe, but there's always a first!
You'd have to pay me $2k for an unrestored 28- early 31' fordor sedan! They're full of wood... |
? If I'm not mistaken, a "coupe" by definition, is always 2 door. A "sedan" by definition is always 4 door. If this is wrong, I've been misinformed for 30 years.
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Mike Fisher
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My Uncle bought a 1930 Graham-Page fordor sedan and carved all new Oak for it!
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azmodela
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This thread will probably get moved or locked because its not bus material but... I found a 31 Ford Model A coupe (4 door, suicide doors) yesterday. It is basically the frame, body, glass but it is in great shape. I was only able to find 2 small spots of rust-through.
Like this, but not as nice obviously. They want $2K for it.
http://www.stovebolt.com/gallery/alternate/gerdom_larry_1931modela.html
A hot rod project may be in my very near future.
BTW: that is a cool barnfind. |
I've never seen a 4 door model a coupe, but there's always a first!
You'd have to pay me $2k for an unrestored 28- early 31' fordor sedan! They're full of wood... |
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chickengeorge
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| 209slushee209 wrote: |
| chickengeorge wrote: |
Mustang II and nine inch with stock motor and trans pushing 20's and 22's.
Done. |
what is wrong with you that car is worth way more the way it is. that is an incredible find how much did you pay |
Take that, TJ. |
Dang...Motherfucker told me, didn't he? |
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Collie
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Wow, that '40 Dodge is amazing!
Does anyone know how much that car cost new in 1940? |
Best I could find on Google yesterday was $855 for the 4-door... |
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