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dan macmillan
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Location: Northern Ontario, Canada
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After looking seeing this thread and considering my laminate is badly chipped I decided to start removing it and doing a custom stain on the wood. I took the original posters advice re using an iron to remove it.
Although this works good, it was taking too much time for my liking. I found out that if you use a propane torch and heat the laminate till it starts to burn and bubble slightly, then just a little more, the glue will create a pressurized pocket that pushes the laminate free of the wood.
It does not burn the wood and makes removal fast and easy.
When using the iron I was taking the laminate off in small pieces. Using the torch I was able to remove it in complete sheets. It also leaves less glue residue on the wood. Later {probably today} I will take some pictures of the process and post them. |
You purists will probably cry or at least leave your opinions on why we should not do this.
Time:
remove laminate 5 min,
sand wood 20 min
stain with ebony stain 5 min
clearcoat tommorrow, 10 min
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dbo550
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I'm with izzardking on this. The generations of westy owners to come are gonna wonder what the hell we were thinking. So save what laminate you can so our kids can sell it on eBay to pay for college.
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dan macmillan
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Location: Northern Ontario, Canada
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After looking seeing this thread and considering my laminate is badly chipped I decided to start removing it and doing a custom stain on the wood. I took the original posters advice re using an iron to remove it.
Although this works good, it was taking too much time for my liking. I found out that if you use a propane torch and heat the laminate till it starts to burn and bubble slightly, then just a little more, the glue will create a pressurized pocket that pushes the laminate free of the wood.
It does not burn the wood and makes removal fast and easy.
When using the iron I was taking the laminate off in small pieces. Using the torch I was able to remove it in complete sheets. It also leaves less glue residue on the wood. Later {probably today} I will take some pictures of the process and post them.
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CFC/HCFC/HFC A/C handling and installation license
Alignment specialist
66 Modified Manx,68 Kyote,74 Thing,74 Beetle, 76 Transporter,75 self made Double Cab,65 Meyers Manx,78Westy,68 Ghia, 79 Bradley GT2
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EZ Gruv
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Joined: December 10, 2002
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Location: Las Vegas
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| well actually that insulation is original. I just left it in. There's no rust behind it whatsoever |
Same thought here. It was put there 30 years ago, and no rust at all. |
Easy to say when you live in a desert.  |
Hater. 
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VDubTech
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| Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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| pfatt wrote: |
| well actually that insulation is original. I just left it in. There's no rust behind it whatsoever |
Same thought here. It was put there 30 years ago, and no rust at all. |
Easy to say when you live in a desert. |
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EZ Gruv
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| Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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| pfatt wrote: |
| well actually that insulation is original. I just left it in. There's no rust behind it whatsoever |
Same thought here. It was put there 30 years ago, and no rust at all.
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pfatt
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| well actually that insulation is original. I just left it in. There's no rust behind it whatsoever |
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Traveling Writer
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Looks great, and I'm definitely going to take the peeling, chipped laminate off mine and minwax it or something... BUT didn't I read somewhere that you shouldn't pack insulation into the door/wall cavities because it'll trap condensation from your snoring body and rust the heck out of the bus from the inside out??
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theizzardking
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| damn that looks so much better. Seriously, this is such a huge upgrade. Huge! Get cracking everyone...rip off that vinyl. |
meh i'm leaving my alone cause after this thread having an all original westy interior will be worth some $$$$ with everyone modding everything!
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greenbus pilot
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Don't bite my style. People are just jealous because I did it first. |
Yeah Gruv, you got the suit, but I am gonna paint my house L63H!
( maybe when it warms up a bit......)
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Steelhead
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damn that looks so much better. Seriously, this is such a huge upgrade. Huge! Get cracking everyone...rip off that vinyl.
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iWANTBUS
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| Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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| looks great! |
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pfatt
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This is what I ended up with after delaminating all of the cabinets. I stained it all then put about 7 to 10 coats of Minwax polycrylic. I'm thrilled with the way it turned out.
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pfatt
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Here are some pictures of what I ended up with after I delaminated all the cabinets. I stained them then put about 10 coats of Minwax Polycrylic clear coat on all of it. The work is not perfect, but the wood is distressed and I think it looks btter than what I would want off the shelf. I actually started filling in all the nicks and gouges but then decided to leave them. it looks just great that way. |
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EZ Gruv
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Don't bite my style. People are just jealous because I did it first.
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BusBerd
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| dang! that suit is pimp.... I'd rock that anyday |
......Needs a hat......!  |
"crumpleface" said she could make a suit like that! You just need to send her the material. 
PM her here:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=133204
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greenbus pilot
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| dang! that suit is pimp.... I'd rock that anyday |
......Needs a hat......!
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chazz79
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fusername
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note to self, double check links when posting images....
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EZ Gruv
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That interior looks familiar... wait a minute, is EZ GRUV the plaid leisure suit guy?
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Oh No! My secret identity has been revealed!
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