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typ901 Samba Member
Joined: March 03, 2004 Posts: 17 Location: northern california 94546
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:39 am Post subject: Re: Otto Mathe and his "Fetzenflieger" race car |
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I realize it's been a long time, but is there any update on this ? I was just reminded that I wrote an article for the 356 Registry about a visit I had w/ Otto in 1987;
https://www.porsche356registry.org/system/magazines/pdfs/000/000/173/original/295r.pdf?1396814917
page 16. sorry, no tech. details. I didn't have a good grip on who I was visiting. there was virtually nothing in print on his history at the time.
best
jerry |
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SkooobaSteve Samba Member

Joined: March 23, 2005 Posts: 3152 Location: Dothan Alabama
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PROTOTYP Samba Member
Joined: September 28, 2009 Posts: 86 Location: Hamburg
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Andi K Samba Member
Joined: March 03, 2005 Posts: 83
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:51 am Post subject: |
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Yes, I have bought this very interesting magazine and it has indeed some nice pics and has a detailed story about the Berlin Rome racecars. But it's all in german:
http://www.wai.de/wai-pages/oldtimermarkt/201002/ |
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peter schepens Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2003 Posts: 1030 Location: belgium Caesars camp
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 3:40 am Post subject: |
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HI there,
There is a german magazine about Old cars in General that shows an article over this Rom Berlin car. The story that goes with it unveil some details.....The Fletzenflieger is made with a chassis of another Berlin Rome car. It is written with the help of the PROTOTYPE museum who loand the car to get driven by the reporter.
All the remains of the Berlin Rome car found by GI's after the war and some very early engines ( like prototo"s from the pre war area) are sold with the remaining Berlin rome car to Mathé..
The magazine is Oldtimer markt Februar 2010.
Some detailed picts are in it to from the Berlin Rome car, not the Fletzenflieger.
Best regards. _________________ Zelensis, glassfibre body made in Belgium , disigned and built on a VW platform About 25 body's built.
Hebmuller info wanted for http://www.hebmueller-registry.com/home.html |
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Shadd Samba Member
Joined: January 18, 2007 Posts: 883 Location: Lancaster, Ohio
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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:53 pm Post subject: Re: Monterey Historic Car Races 1982 |
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Wow, the real live Joe Dirt!
He's saying "Dang, What the hell kinda ford is that?"
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drscope Samba Member

Joined: February 19, 2007 Posts: 15273 Location: Baltimore, Maryland USA
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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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I guess thats what we get for not paying closer attention! _________________ Mother Nature is a Mean Evil Bitch! |
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djfordmanjack Samba Member

Joined: June 15, 2009 Posts: 2368 Location: Graz, Austria, Europe
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PROTOTYP Samba Member
Joined: September 28, 2009 Posts: 86 Location: Hamburg
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:35 pm Post subject: Oil tank |
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Your oil tank is a petrol spare tank. He sure made some money with his additives but not enough to have his own petrol company. The oil tank is the one right behind the seat.
And yes Castrol Rennöl was the one that was chosen for the carrera engines. today we use special diesel oil with all our fuhrmann engines because it can cope with high temperature |
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drscope Samba Member

Joined: February 19, 2007 Posts: 15273 Location: Baltimore, Maryland USA
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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djfordmanjack wrote: |
Great thread, great car, great man !
I find it somehow amusing that a man known for his reknown motor oil additives brand would have a shell sticker on his oil tank
I have heard rumors only today that his cars were sold off quite cheap after he passed away, dunno if that is true though. |
I'm sure he didn't have shell oil in that tank either! About the only oil used in the 4 cam engines at that time was Castrol R. _________________ Mother Nature is a Mean Evil Bitch! |
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djfordmanjack Samba Member

Joined: June 15, 2009 Posts: 2368 Location: Graz, Austria, Europe
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Great thread, great car, great man !
I find it somehow amusing that a man known for his reknown motor oil additives brand would have a shell sticker on his oil tank
I have heard rumors only today that his cars were sold off quite cheap after he passed away, dunno if that is true though. _________________ Hotrods, Fords, Veedubs and Triumph Twins !
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MDKG Samba Member

Joined: October 16, 2008 Posts: 1089 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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Sweet pics! Thanks for posting. Got any more? |
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transportertalkman Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:57 am Post subject: Monterey Historic Car Races 1982 |
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There was only about 3 dozen Vintage VW people in the Southern California area in 1982. We all cruised up for the Historic Car Races in Monterey in 1982, the featured marque being Porsche. We met Otto Mathe and checked out his Berlin to Rome race car up close. Porsche also brought over from Germany the 16 cylinder Auto-Union racer.
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1957 Ghia coupe
1960 Double Cab
1963 Ghia convertible
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mackteck Samba Member

Joined: March 31, 2006 Posts: 372 Location: trim,Ireland
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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I visited the Prototyp museum last weekend, really good
I took a lot of pics of the mathe car, suspension etc...I can PM if any use to you.
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delamaize Samba Member

Joined: December 05, 2008 Posts: 769 Location: Tenino, Wa
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Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:50 am Post subject: |
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JAKE! dude you started building yet? _________________ Mike "Delamaize"
Starting over again.
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His non-attention to detail really sets it apart. I see a new trend.......call it " 'tard ride". |
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The tard box will live again! |
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Steven Bishop Samba Member
Joined: December 24, 2009 Posts: 2
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:19 pm Post subject: cool car |
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hello just wondering how the project is going, very interesting, there is a kubel floor pan sitting under the tree at the shop i work at, that car is giving me ideas. looks like a fun project. kooblekar |
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eddiemoney East Coast Scavenger
Joined: April 08, 2004 Posts: 1950 Location: Orlando
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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sled wrote: |
I just got an oval window torsion housing, but I am still looking for a split torsion or even earlier as the original car has a Kubel housing.
still collecting little parts here and there. The "frame" will be built with chromoly for strength and weight.
probably wont start construction for 4 to 6 months. |
almost 7 months now.
whats up updates?!?!?!? _________________ --------------------------------------
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vwtrey Samba Member

Joined: May 18, 2004 Posts: 589 Location: NM
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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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sled wrote: |
I just got an oval window torsion housing, but I am still looking for a split torsion or even earlier as the original car has a Kubel housing.
still collecting little parts here and there. The "frame" will be built with chromoly for strength and weight.
probably wont start construction for 4 to 6 months. |
we are at 4 months since an update. Anything? |
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50ate Samba Member

Joined: September 22, 2007 Posts: 1171 Location: PNW
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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Jake homie.. I will be lookin after this thread. lets get to some build pics already!!! |
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DDub Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2005 Posts: 317 Location: central pa.
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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Go with the fenders!! |
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