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 Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:46 pm Post subject: Re: California Year of Manufacture Plates |
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| I actually had a set of old plates that I successfully registered to my bus at the time (under the YOM program) and then a year later they contacted me and said my plates were duplicates and I'd have to stop using them. |
They have re-used some of the number sequences for newer "boutique" places, like the college plates, whale plates, etc. For this reason, do not buy "DMV Clear" plates until you're ready to run down to DMV and register them - the sequence could get pulled out from under you.
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srfndoc
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:54 am Post subject: Re: California Year of Manufacture Plates |
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We sold our ‘65 Bus to a guy in California 11 years ago. He registered it in CA with original black plates.
We bought it back last Summer. Since I’m not in CA, they are now wall hangers.
He suggested that original black plates aren’t so valuable since California reissued the black plate.
I didn’t realize the huge PITA It is to get original YOM plates on a car in CA.
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The new plates are no substitute for originals as other than color they don’t look the same. Originals didn’t drop in value.
Your plates have value to someone with a 65. |
Agreed. I think the new plates actually increased the value of original plates and made the YOM program more valuable. I really hate seeing the new plates on new cars.
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djway3474
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:06 am Post subject: Re: California Year of Manufacture Plates |
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| rag63 wrote: |
We sold our ‘65 Bus to a guy in California 11 years ago. He registered it in CA with original black plates.
We bought it back last Summer. Since I’m not in CA, they are now wall hangers.
He suggested that original black plates aren’t so valuable since California reissued the black plate.
I didn’t realize the huge PITA It is to get original YOM plates on a car in CA.
Dave |
The new plates are no substitute for originals as other than color they don’t look the same. Originals didn’t drop in value.
Your plates have value to someone with a 65. |
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Jacks
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:02 am Post subject: Re: California Year of Manufacture Plates |
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The “reissued “ California black plates are quite different from the originals.
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rag63
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:13 am Post subject: Re: California Year of Manufacture Plates |
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We sold our ‘65 Bus to a guy in California 11 years ago. He registered it in CA with original black plates.
We bought it back last Summer. Since I’m not in CA, they are now wall hangers.
He suggested that original black plates aren’t so valuable since California reissued the black plate.
I didn’t realize the huge PITA It is to get original YOM plates on a car in CA.
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srfndoc
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:51 am Post subject: Re: California Year of Manufacture Plates |
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I just came across this thread. About 5 years ago I purchased a BEAUTIFUL set of Yellow plates black lettering that I was told were clear. 3rd DMV try finally found a clerk that had a clue what was what. One had accused me of some illegal plot although she wasn't sure what crime I committed.
A couple months after all was in I got a call from the woman that ran the program. She explained that my plates had been registered at one time to a 62 Chevy so I couldn't use them since I had a 59 VW. She said it made no sense but that was how the law had been written, can't swap years. I don't remember if she said make. She was very nice.
That's my experience.
The seller did give my money back, luckily I knew someone that knew him... |
I actually had a set of old plates that I successfully registered to my bus at the time (under the YOM program) and then a year later they contacted me and said my plates were duplicates and I'd have to stop using them. I have the plates still and they are definitely not repros (steel stamped plates) so I'm guessing someone made a copy and then successfully registered those. Not sure how I was also able to register and run them for a year but it's the DMV so anything is possible.
In the end I had to buy another set of plates and register them to my bus.
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Busstom
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:44 am Post subject: Re: California Year of Manufacture Plates |
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| ^^^ That makes sense, in 2013 I bought a (now sold) 1948 Chevy Fleetline, and promptly went to a Good Guys hot-rod show to seek the proper yellow plates with fat black lettering. I found the guy selling plates, and they were all sorted by "year" (I don't know if it was "model year" or what), and he reminded me when I was paying for them that they would be for a '48 vehicle. That must've been why. |
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djway3474
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| Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:37 pm Post subject: Re: California Year of Manufacture Plates |
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I just came across this thread. About 5 years ago I purchased a BEAUTIFUL set of Yellow plates black lettering that I was told were clear. 3rd DMV try finally found a clerk that had a clue what was what. One had accused me of some illegal plot although she wasn't sure what crime I committed.
A couple months after all was in I got a call from the woman that ran the program. She explained that my plates had been registered at one time to a 62 Chevy so I couldn't use them since I had a 59 VW. She said it made no sense but that was how the law had been written, can't swap years. I don't remember if she said make. She was very nice.
That's my experience.
The seller did give my money back, luckily I knew someone that knew him... |
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von_hansel 
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| Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:07 pm Post subject: Re: California Year of Manufacture Plates |
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FYI- CA DMV is now accepting walk-ins for YOM. I tried to get my YOM registered to my bus since May, and I was having no luck until about two weeks ago.
They told me that due to COVID, it will take at least two months before I get the new registration paperwork showing the plates registered to the bus.
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Follow Up: 2 months to the date, I finally got my new registration with the YOM plates registered to my bus.
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Busstom
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| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:23 pm Post subject: Re: California Year of Manufacture Plates |
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This. Exact same thing happened to me. Clerk failed to provide pic of my provided sticker. Same, i didnt want to stick it on permanent. Of course this required 2 visits to the DMV. |
I always just use a loop of scotch tape to attach the tag so I can remove it later. Worked for 3 separate YOM plates I've done over the years. |
Damn, where were you eight months ago??? 
Actually, some double-backed tape crossed my mind, but I didn't want to risk the embarrasment of getting caught at the counter.
Also, I wanted to correct an inaccuracy that I stated (which you guys probably already noticed): they don't give you the metal tabs when you leave the DMV, they send them in the mail along with the new tags once your request is granted.  |
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srfndoc
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| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:09 pm Post subject: Re: California Year of Manufacture Plates |
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<snip> They kept my old plates and said I could start using the YOM plates and issued me a temporary driving pass (pink / red form to be stuck on rear window) until Jan 2020.
I am still awaiting approval from Sacramento and the metal tab. <snip> |
I had a very similar experience, however:
Even though they confiscate your old plates, give you metal tabs and send you on your way, they can still reject your request. I received a letter from Sacramento, including a check refunding my $45, voiding the registration on the plates and an explanation that a correct YOM tag had to be installed on one of the plates.
Well, I brought the proper YOM tag with me, which I bought at the Sac Bugorama. However, the ignorant clerk I dealt with apparently didn't know that it had to be stuck to a plate, and she photocopied the plates without the sticker and sent it on its way. I get it, that was fine, I stuck it down and went back and repeated the process with another clerk and it was successful the second time around.
The reason I tried to slip by without adhering the sticker to a plate was because that sticker (orange 1965) was nearly flawless, I didn't want to ruin it by sticking it down and then covering it up the next year...because here's the thing: once you're out of there, no law enforcement officer is going to care (and most probably won't know the policy) that you tossed the cheesy metal tabs and began sticking your renewal stickers directly to the YOM plates, you're going to look just like every other one of the millions of cars on California roads, and they won't ever know (nor probably ever care) that you participated in the YOM plate program. Most of us will probably just stick the new YEAR sricker down on our rear plate just like we've done with every other car we've owned.
I guess my point is, even though a set of plates have been cleared and given conditional pre-approval by a field office, Sacramento ultimately holds the cards, and they do have a process and specific paperwork with a multiple-choice checkbox type form for the person in Sac to use when rejecting the request, specifying the reason(s) for denial. Of course, the sucky part is, if you are ultimately unsuccessful, you'd ultimately have to go get another set of new plates, because as you pointed out, they confiscate your original set early on in the process. |
This. Exact same thing happened to me. Clerk failed to provide pic of my provided sticker. Same, i didnt want to stick it on permanent. Of course this required 2 visits to the DMV. |
I always just use a loop of scotch tape to attach the tag so I can remove it later. Worked for 3 separate YOM plates I've done over the years.
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c21darrel
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| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:22 pm Post subject: Re: California Year of Manufacture Plates |
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<snip> They kept my old plates and said I could start using the YOM plates and issued me a temporary driving pass (pink / red form to be stuck on rear window) until Jan 2020.
I am still awaiting approval from Sacramento and the metal tab. <snip> |
I had a very similar experience, however:
Even though they confiscate your old plates, give you metal tabs and send you on your way, they can still reject your request. I received a letter from Sacramento, including a check refunding my $45, voiding the registration on the plates and an explanation that a correct YOM tag had to be installed on one of the plates.
Well, I brought the proper YOM tag with me, which I bought at the Sac Bugorama. However, the ignorant clerk I dealt with apparently didn't know that it had to be stuck to a plate, and she photocopied the plates without the sticker and sent it on its way. I get it, that was fine, I stuck it down and went back and repeated the process with another clerk and it was successful the second time around.
The reason I tried to slip by without adhering the sticker to a plate was because that sticker (orange 1965) was nearly flawless, I didn't want to ruin it by sticking it down and then covering it up the next year...because here's the thing: once you're out of there, no law enforcement officer is going to care (and most probably won't know the policy) that you tossed the cheesy metal tabs and began sticking your renewal stickers directly to the YOM plates, you're going to look just like every other one of the millions of cars on California roads, and they won't ever know (nor probably ever care) that you participated in the YOM plate program. Most of us will probably just stick the new YEAR sricker down on our rear plate just like we've done with every other car we've owned.
I guess my point is, even though a set of plates have been cleared and given conditional pre-approval by a field office, Sacramento ultimately holds the cards, and they do have a process and specific paperwork with a multiple-choice checkbox type form for the person in Sac to use when rejecting the request, specifying the reason(s) for denial. Of course, the sucky part is, if you are ultimately unsuccessful, you'd ultimately have to go get another set of new plates, because as you pointed out, they confiscate your original set early on in the process. |
This. Exact same thing happened to me. Clerk failed to provide pic of my provided sticker. Same, i didnt want to stick it on permanent. Of course this required 2 visits to the DMV.
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westcalia
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| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:17 pm Post subject: Re: California Year of Manufacture Plates |
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| Is there now a YOM program for blues? Didn’t used to be. |
Its true, but they dont make the blue plates. You have to find blue plates in the aftermarket and then take them to DMV for approval and paperwork. |
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srfndoc
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| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:35 am Post subject: Re: California Year of Manufacture Plates |
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| Is there now a YOM program for blues? Didn’t used to be. |
Yep... it was added a year or so ago.
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Is there now a YOM program for blues? Didn’t used to be.
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von_hansel
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| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:13 am Post subject: Re: California Year of Manufacture Plates |
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FYI- CA DMV is now accepting walk-ins for YOM. I tried to get my YOM registered to my bus since May, and I was having no luck until about two weeks ago.
They told me that due to COVID, it will take at least two months before I get the new registration paperwork showing the plates registered to the bus.
Even though you need to present both plates to DMV, they only photocopied one plate which is the one that had the correct year sticker.
I hope this helps.
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westcalia
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| Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:45 pm Post subject: Re: California Year of Manufacture Plates |
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There are lots of sellers now selling the correct year on eBay
I just ordered another 1970 sticker since it must match the year of the vehicle
The cool thing about these plates I bought they actually have the original DMV stickers as well but they are from Nov 1986
So I’ll put the Nov sticker on with the 1970 sticker from eBay and it should pass like my last ones |
I'm sure they will too, I was just pointing out one of the nuances of the process based on real-world experience and, maybe, just save someone else the headache that I went through. |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:37 pm Post subject: Re: California Year of Manufacture Plates |
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There are lots of sellers now selling the correct year on eBay
I just ordered another 1970 sticker since it must match the year of the vehicle
The cool thing about these plates I bought they actually have the original DMV stickers as well but they are from Nov 1986
So I’ll put the Nov sticker on with the 1970 sticker from eBay and it should pass like my last ones |
I'm sure they will too, I was just pointing out one of the nuances of the process based on real-world experience and, maybe, just save someone else the headache that I went through. |
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westcalia
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| Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:20 pm Post subject: Re: California Year of Manufacture Plates |
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There are lots of sellers now selling the correct year on eBay
I just ordered another 1970 sticker since it must match the year of the vehicle
The cool thing about these plates I bought they actually have the original DMV stickers as well but they are from Nov 1986
So I’ll put the Nov sticker on with the 1970 sticker from eBay and it should pass like my last ones |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:52 pm Post subject: Re: California Year of Manufacture Plates |
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<snip> They kept my old plates and said I could start using the YOM plates and issued me a temporary driving pass (pink / red form to be stuck on rear window) until Jan 2020.
I am still awaiting approval from Sacramento and the metal tab. <snip> |
I had a very similar experience, however:
Even though they confiscate your old plates, give you metal tabs and send you on your way, they can still reject your request. I received a letter from Sacramento, including a check refunding my $45, voiding the registration on the plates and an explanation that a correct YOM tag had to be installed on one of the plates.
Well, I brought the proper YOM tag with me, which I bought at the Sac Bugorama. However, the ignorant clerk I dealt with apparently didn't know that it had to be stuck to a plate, and she photocopied the plates without the sticker and sent it on its way. I get it, that was fine, I stuck it down and went back and repeated the process with another clerk and it was successful the second time around.
The reason I tried to slip by without adhering the sticker to a plate was because that sticker (orange 1965) was nearly flawless, I didn't want to ruin it by sticking it down and then covering it up the next year...because here's the thing: once you're out of there, no law enforcement officer is going to care (and most probably won't know the policy) that you tossed the cheesy metal tabs and began sticking your renewal stickers directly to the YOM plates, you're going to look just like every other one of the millions of cars on California roads, and they won't ever know (nor probably ever care) that you participated in the YOM plate program. Most of us will probably just stick the new YEAR sricker down on our rear plate just like we've done with every other car we've owned.
I guess my point is, even though a set of plates have been cleared and given conditional pre-approval by a field office, Sacramento ultimately holds the cards, and they do have a process and specific paperwork with a multiple-choice checkbox type form for the person in Sac to use when rejecting the request, specifying the reason(s) for denial. Of course, the sucky part is, if you are ultimately unsuccessful, you'd ultimately have to go get another set of new plates, because as you pointed out, they confiscate your original set early on in the process. |
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