Pertronix Billet Distributor Upgrade Feasible?

[RailBoy]

See, I don't know much of the MagnaSpark, but when it comes to the Pertronix Set-Up they have a decently reviewed reliable Module which to me is key. Plus I have been running one, Now the rest of there mechanical mechanisms involving there distributors seams sound if they fit your needs...

I do hope to hear more on the MagnaSpark, but in all I hope to hear more about the Pertrinix's Performance as well.... This was one of the goals of the forum also...

Now pertaining to otis03, my thing is weather and electronics do not mix, also the wallet like you said, but, a Pertronix Billet Distributor tricked out is not small change, nor big either... Thing is simplicity of the system and durability which I have found worth wild over the years with its traditional layout... RB

[ots03]

[ots03]

[Glenn]

[Ragman]

[RailBoy]

Yea I saw that, very cool... Thing is I need a new Starter, my OG Starter hates my new 2110,lol... Oh, and that just brings us back to the point of the forum, qualifications of why needing and big cap Distributor. Thing is the Pertronix has been around for a bit and people have seen working results-reliability and so on, but maybe we will here of the Magnaspark in this forum as well once some peeps have run it....

Thanks for the update on the new product......RB

[Pat D]

Check out our new Magnaspark-2 distributor. Extremely high qaulity and priced affordable.
http://cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=432

[RailBoy]

I know you are not speaking of me, but in your defence, I have seen your website...I know there is a best, but it depends on your engine and what you are trying to do with it, Restoration, OG, Performance, or just experimentation,lol......

Oh, my Rod, it is all original German stuff + more, just all mixed up with the best stuff I can get and still get, wish there was a Rod Profile Build Sheet under User's Profile to get specific on a Car......RB

[Glenn]

[RailBoy]

Thing is I think that since he deals with most all the Distributors that have been known to be ran in the ACVW Engines he must be knowledgeable.. Also, check out his back ground, he has seen results and most all practices, and oh yea, he even promotes other distributors that he knows about if you would like to try any of them out, but that is your call, I guess it depends on how you want your engine to run is all, expectations........

Thanks for you knowledge base Glenn......RB

[Ragman]

[Glenn]

[donmurray]

Thanks Glenn,

Now if some engine builder would present hp & torque curves for 2 or 3 different engines. Each engine doing a pull with each distributor. Has anyone done some dyno comparisons? It's not likely that all engines would respond the same to different distributor advance curves.
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74 Ghia, with 2110 engine

[RailBoy]

Thanks for your input and graph Glenn, I know you are busy....RB

[Glenn]

[RailBoy]

I think what the key is and when I think I can touch base with Glenn on it is the Advancement Curve like you are hitting on.. I am not 100% sure, but it seams from what I have read and heard is that the 010 comes on more in the low range/low RPM's vs. the 009. So, you have more bottom end torque. But, this has yet to be verified for validity for I have never talked to anyone specifically on this matter. Also, like you spoke of, the heavy hitters typically build a higher revving engine, where as I run single heavy duty valve springs and rely on Low End Torque to do the job on the street, plus more manageable and also hopefully will be a high milage motor do to less cam/lifter forces... Thus back to using a 010 vs. the 009n like you said for rev differences...... Have to yet to verify this info though with someone who knows specifically.... RB

[donmurray]

I've noticed that some well known engine builders are using the 009. Why would they sacrifice some performance if the 010 is better? Is it because they both produce the same HP in a full throttle dyno pull, but the 010 has better performance at low rpm? Still, it looks like these builders would see the difference on the run up power curve, and opt for the better distributor.
Maybe the difference is not worth fussing over?
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74 Ghia, with 2110 engine

[RailBoy]

Hello, thanks for the in site into the distributor. That is what I have gathered about the distributors that I have been reading up on, 009/010/019/050, ect.... It seams that the 009 is near the top when it comes to the advance curve, but not as "on" as the 010.

I have seen Glen's site, very impressive.. I should email him to hear about what I should do just to have a collective ear lets say on the topic. Thing is I have gathered lots of input here in the forums, but at the same time some of it seams to be lacking in validity is all.. Seen lots from Glen in the forums on the topic though, just no direct comparisons of the distributors, ie-defining differences...

I will keep an eye out for the Pertronixs you mentioned, could be down the road.. Thanks to you and Glen for helping setting me straight, and also the monkey guy I see all the time, he seams right on or close enough to always consider he is on target... Sorry if it sounds like I am judging, just want valid, verifiable expertise on info is all. Kinda hard to get on here at times or to find... Thing is all my buds are kinda going away in a bad way, lost a nice informative guy a few years back who knew his stuff. Also, not many people in my area up to par on VW stuff what so ever, or lets say not anymore...

Thanks for helping set me straight, been a while since I talk shop over VW's, built a Rail back in '88 and never really changed until now, new 2110 engine and Hybrid Drag Tranny and a few other perks in the past few years though....

Just for laughs check this out, my Hurst Shifter: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/642923.jpg

Thanks again... RB

[Alan_U]

Why dontcha contact Glenn. He probably has a good handful fully rebuilt ready to go. While your at it get the cap/rotor for tuneup parts.

As far as the pertronix is concerned I'd see if there is a pertronix II version available. That is a much more intelligent spark manager. The "II" version will allow enough dwell time for sufficient spark.

To be honest your current setup is fine except the advance curve is kinda sluggish.

I have the mallory unilite and its a phenominal distributor with rock solid timing with no ignition bounce.

Dont be concerned with all this bull cra! sales pitch of "increase spark" the KV required to fire atomized fuel in a "street car" is not very high. A blue coil with a standard pertronix will have enough KV potential even at 7000+ rpms. The pertronix II is just better at giving sufficient dwell time to "recharge" the spark. Can you feel a difference? I doubt it.
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11.92sec pump gas true daily driver. Who says it cant be done.

No more time for VW's.......

[RailBoy]

Thanks for ya'lls input, just wanted to make sure my ignition set-up is up
to par to do the job effectively. I can see what Glenn is getting at with
swapping to a 010 pertaining to the timing advancement curve. Guess I may just keep an eye out for a 010 distributor in the future and if I find one I will cross that bridge when it comes.. Thanks again....RB