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theastronaut
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 Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:43 am Post subject: Re: Boat-tail/Knife edge crankshaft counterweighs & rod thro |
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| Lingwendil wrote: |
I came into this thread for the shit-talking and fine hand cut work.
I left wanting to buy a Ford Festiva  |
Annoying aren’t they? I bought my first one for $700 and it turned into disrupting all of my other car interests. Now I’ve had about a dozen of them and around 8 Capris for drivetrain donors.
If you were wanting one then you probably shouldn’t watch this guy outrunning all sorts of fast cars on a road course in a de-tuned to 160hp street legal Festiva on dot tires. I just bought a running and driving turbo Capri for $250 swap into a Festiva shell I bought for $250 to replicate this guys build. I can have it street/track ready for maybe another $2000 with 180 whp and 1400ish pounds. Maybe 1500, I’ll leave the A/C and dash in it.
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theastronaut
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| Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:35 pm Post subject: Re: Boat-tail/Knife edge crankshaft counterweighs & rod thro |
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| ALB wrote: |
I (along with many others I'm sure) have been following along since the beginning, waiting to see you put this crankshaft in an engine, so you can appreciate the disappointment on hearing you're thinking of selling it. That said, I do understand that things change. It was a fascinating project. Pardon me for asking- I'm sure it was documented in the thread but I don't have time right now to go through page by page to find it, so- how much weight overall did the crankshaft shed?
Again, thanks for documenting this journey. Al |
I understand everyone's anticipation and that's why I've decided to sell it so someone else can get it going and report back on how it works... or how big of a hole it puts in their case  I've settled on going back through the 1679 and making a 1914 out of it using my SS pistons and good heads, and the existing crank with longer rods. Should be an easy/quick build and still make a lot of power with the right heads and cam.
I looked back through the thread, I must not have weighed/posted the final weight after it was balanced. It's down to 20 pounds 3 ounces from it's original weight of 21 pounds 11.3 ounces.
Not to turn this into an ad, but if anyone is interested in the rotating assembly let me know. I'd love to see it go to someone who will use it and post their build and results here. I think it would be a bigger disappointment for everyone following if it stayed on the shelf with no plans and no final outcome. I have the crank, the matching balanced flywheel, stage 1 Kennedy pressure plate, and a JayCee billet 6" pulley with steel hub machined for a sand seal. Not really sure what to ask, there's around $1100 in parts and balancing. PM me and we'll work something out.
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ALB
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| Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:53 am Post subject: Re: Boat-tail/Knife edge crankshaft counterweighs & rod thro |
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I (along with many others I'm sure) have been following along since the beginning, waiting to see you put this crankshaft in an engine, so you can appreciate the disappointment on hearing you're thinking of selling it. That said, I do understand that things change. It was a fascinating project. Pardon me for asking- I'm sure it was documented in the thread but I don't have time right now to go through page by page to find it, so- how much weight overall did the crankshaft shed?
Again, thanks for documenting this journey. Al
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theastronaut
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| Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:54 am Post subject: Re: Boat-tail/Knife edge crankshaft counterweighs & rod thro |
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| nsracing wrote: |
Don't give it up man. Let me know what you need. I can help you build it.
Can I PM you for phone? I may make it down there in 2 weeks or so. I have to pick up a boat.  |
I just texted your phone number in case it's still the same, if not PM me. I'm not giving up, just scaling back to a more reasonable level of insanity. I was up to 15 cars at one point, and four of those were big projects plus keeping up with maintenance on the daily, plus I've flipped and parted out a bunch of cars for extra cash for my projects. I've decided to scale back to one VW, once C10, one daily Festiva, and one race Festiva. The rest are being sold off, along with extra parts like the crankshaft that I no longer have plans for.
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| Mr. Astronaut, where are you finding these Festivas , cannot locate one anywhere in New england. Thanks |
I've found them all locally except for the blue one, that one was found a couple hours away in NC. I found two on offerup, two from the Festiva group on Facebook, and a few on craigslist. I have friends up north that drive down here to find rust free Festivas, I just sold the grey '89 to a friend in Kentucky.
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calvinater
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| Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:21 am Post subject: Re: Boat-tail/Knife edge crankshaft counterweighs & rod thro |
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Mr. Astronaut, where are you finding these Festivas , cannot locate one anywhere in New england. Thanks
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| Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:42 pm Post subject: Re: Boat-tail/Knife edge crankshaft counterweighs & rod thro |
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Don't give it up man. Let me know what you need. I can help you build it.
Can I PM you for phone? I may make it down there in 2 weeks or so. I have to pick up a boat. |
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theastronaut
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| Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:31 pm Post subject: Re: Boat-tail/Knife edge crankshaft counterweighs & rod thro |
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Nice to see everybody doing well. Have not been here - how goes it Astro?
I have a friend I work with here in Fairfax and he has a house in Anderson. He was inviting me to come look for a house there close the Lake Russel for my retirement. How about that?
HOw is the motor coming along man? PM me. |
Hey, no progress on the engine. Let me know if you make it down this way! Glad the crank still has some interest, but I'll probably never get around to using it. If anything I'm going to go back through the 1679cc for my '64 and be done with building VW's. Anyone interested in buying the crank so it's not just shelf art? Not really sure how to price it.
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'63 Beetle Vert
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nsracing
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| Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:48 am Post subject: Re: Boat-tail/Knife edge crankshaft counterweighs & rod thro |
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Nice to see everybody doing well. Have not been here - how goes it Astro?
I have a friend I work with here in Fairfax and he has a house in Anderson. He was inviting me to come look for a house there close the Lake Russel for my retirement. How about that?
HOw is the motor coming along man? PM me. |
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theastronaut
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| Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:01 am Post subject: Re: Boat-tail/Knife edge crankshaft counterweighs & rod thro |
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| That looks amazing! |
Thanks!
Here are the Festivas, couldn't post pics from imgur from my phone last night. The red one is the street legal but track-focused build, and the white on is my daily that I autocross and track while the red one is apart. The blue one is mom's, she decided she wanted one once I got into them.
I ran across this thing at a flea market while the '64 bug was down with a broken valve spring a few years back. The '77 Celica I was dailying decided to spin a rod bearing so both daily drivers were dead. I decided to find something cheap to drive while both engine were apart. One of my friends that was at the flea market with us that day pointed it out jokingly since he knew I was into rwd cars- VW's and Chevy trucks and thought I'd never be caught dead in a throwaway FWD hatch. It was dirt cheap at $700 bucks though, so I looked at it and test drove it and bought it. I found the forum for them and found out that they out-handle nearly anything with fenders and engine swaps are easy since they're Mazda based. So now I've had around ten of them and they're just stupid amounts of fun. This one is getting a 1.6 DOHC engine from a Mercury Capri/Mazda Miata with dual 45 Dellortos, a header, and cams. The trans is from a turbo Capri XR2. Engine and trans are moved forward 2.125" for better weight distribution. Should be around 150 hp, weighs under 1800 pounds, and will do 1.3-1.4g in corners.
The white one has the original 1.3 sohc engine but I've added a header, cam, Weber two barrel, and ported head. It's making around 75-80 hp now (stock was 5 and spins to 7,000 rpm. It has basic springs, shocks, and upgraded wheels/tires but is otherwise stock. It has A/C and I haven't done any weight reduction other than taking the back seat out. It does ridiculously well at autocrosses, regularly placing top ten overall. Still gets 35-40 mpg on the highway and 30-35 around town. It's hilarious to pull up to an autocross and literally get laughed at, then blow away most of the entries and have people come over to ask what all has been done to it and want to ride in it. The last two events it's been only .4 and .5 seconds behind a trailered Factory Five Spec Cobra race car. The red car should be quite a bit faster.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:54 pm Post subject: Re: Boat-tail/Knife edge crankshaft counterweighs & rod thro |
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That looks amazing!
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theastronaut
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| Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:40 pm Post subject: Re: Boat-tail/Knife edge crankshaft counterweighs & rod thro |
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I’m still here! Been busy with other interests so I haven’t posted much lately. I semi-restored my ‘63 convertible back in 2017 and have gotten into autocrossing my Festiva over the past 3-4 years. Been to Arizona in the Festiva twice for road course events (500+ miles on the track!) and have done a bunch of local autocrosses. I think I’ll set up the ‘64 that burned for autocross when I get back around to fixing it up. Right now I’m prepping the convertible to sale and I’ll probably selling my ‘66 C10 soon as well. Trying to scale back the collection to be able to focus back on the ‘64 and the Festiva track build. I’m still not sure if I’ll build the 1679 back as a 1679 or if I’ll build it into a 2276 using this crank.
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'63 Beetle Vert
'66 Beetle
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nsracing
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| Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:23 am Post subject: Re: Boat-tail/Knife edge crankshaft counterweighs & rod thro |
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I had fun balancing this crankshaft.
When I got the crank the first time and hung on the balancer - I had such a nice laugh. As for me - I like the crank heavy and robust with minimal profiling. I will however remove all the flash marks when I have time and smooth out but not too heavy a flap wheel work and done.
I sure hope Astroman is okay. |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:37 am Post subject: Re: Boat-tail/Knife edge crankshaft counterweighs & rod thro |
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Profile says he was online yesterday..
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:21 pm Post subject: Re: Boat-tail/Knife edge crankshaft counterweighs & rod thro |
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| is astro nut stilll with us???? or did astro boy and space ghost kidknap him? |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:55 am Post subject: Re: Boat-tail/Knife edge crankshaft counterweighs & rod thro |
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holy hell, has it really been almost 3 years since this thread was last posted to?! hope everything is working out, would love to see updates, used to love watching this crank get shinier and shinier.. haha
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:20 am Post subject: Re: Boat-tail/Knife edge crankshaft counterweighs & rod thro |
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Any update, Astroman?
We never got an update. Hope all is well. Has anyone heard from RockCrusher? |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 6:34 am Post subject: Re: Boat-tail/Knife edge crankshaft counterweighs & rod thro |
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| Maybe a new set of snubbers is in order. |
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theastronaut
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: Boat-tail/Knife edge crankshaft counterweighs & rod thro |
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Oil pressure light was working. If it was on I was probably too busy looking at the smoke in the rear view mirror to notice it. It all happened within 1/8th mile from noticing smoke to shutting it off and coasting to a stop. I was having starvation issues before tearing it down, both when launching and cornering so I added a 1.5 quart sump. I think the biggest problem was running a pair of shorter tires on the test drive, 195/50's instead on my usual 165/80's. The sump still had more clearance than the front beam and sway bar so I wasn't worried about it since the front didn't have any clearance issues.
I'll make some changes when it goes back together. Probably will be stock height all around with 5.5" smoothies widened to the inside so they don't look wider with 26x6" M&H DOT's and Portawalls for the sleeper look. No clearance issues with it raised back up. I'll cut up a stock muffler and clamp it to the sidewinder so it has stock tips sticking out to complete the stock look.
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