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pbrown Samba Member
Joined: July 15, 2008 Posts: 496 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:51 pm Post subject: Re: Radiator card board deflectors |
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I have had the GoWesty version in my van for years. They've held up great. I did have to modify it when I upgraded to the crossflow AC condenser. I would recommend. _________________ Patrick Brown
1986 Westy Syncro EJ25
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Backtotheeightiesagain Samba Member
Joined: November 21, 2023 Posts: 140 Location: Uk
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2025 2:23 pm Post subject: Re: Radiator card board deflectors |
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I found strips of reinforced rubber.
Normally used to make cam belts.
Probably rigid workshop rubber flooring similar.
Pattern and sharp knife and it's done. Jigsaw cutter if really tough. |
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kamzcab86 Samba Moderator

Joined: July 26, 2008 Posts: 8462 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 3:06 pm Post subject: Re: Radiator card board deflectors |
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kamzcab86 wrote: |
Phishman068 wrote: |
I've installed about ten sets of the Gowesty ones. They fit great, easy to install- absolutely great. |
The bottom one was totally useless on my '90. |
FWIW, here's a photo of GoWesty's bottom baffle vs. mine (A/C version):
GoWesty's would not fit with my van's factory-original A/C condenser; no way, no how (unless modified). I stuck my DIY version back in. When I removed the condenser, GoWesty's still wouldn't fit properly to cover the entire gap, thus made a new, revised DIY version. _________________ ~Kamz
1986 Cabriolet: www.Cabby-Info.com
1990 Vanagon Westfalia: Old Blue's Blog
2016 Golf GTI S
"Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance." - 孔子 |
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Ahwahnee Samba Member

Joined: June 05, 2010 Posts: 10226 Location: Mt Lemmon, AZ
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:09 pm Post subject: Re: Radiator card board deflectors |
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Another baffled area that some may be doing without is the backside of the grille.
The original cardboard eventually succumbs to rain but a replacement set from election signs is easy and durable.
No idea if they help but given where I live and travel I'll do anything that VW thought was good. |
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squeegee_boy Samba Member

Joined: April 27, 2008 Posts: 786 Location: Langley, BC, Canada
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:04 am Post subject: Re: Radiator card board deflectors |
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kamzcab86 wrote: |
IMHO, they're a waste of money for the late-model vans that have A/C.
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Yeah, when I added AC to my 84 (using GWs condenser) I had to leave out the GW side baffles entirely, they just did not fit anymore
It didn't affect cooling performance at all though, so I haven't bothered with a replacement
The bottom GW is still in place and works great.
Robyn _________________ 1984 FrankenSyncro Westy. EJ25 RMW kit |
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Kdj Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2017 Posts: 274 Location: Naptown
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 10:50 am Post subject: Re: Radiator card board deflectors |
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dhaavers wrote: |
Phishman068 wrote: |
…I wouldn't be spending time making them by hand given how good and easy the gowesty ones are. |
I did though, because I have plenty of time…AND I’m cheap.
- Dave |
What he said
Plus I like making things. Nothing against our great suppliers, but this was a no brainer no cost repair. Plus I got to do a little crafting. |
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?Waldo? Samba Member

Joined: February 22, 2006 Posts: 10019 Location: Where?
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 10:48 am Post subject: Re: Radiator card board deflectors |
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For one of my Vanagons, I made a set out of coroplast political signs that were left over after the voting was done. They have lasted better than the stock/replacement cardboard. |
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kamzcab86 Samba Moderator

Joined: July 26, 2008 Posts: 8462 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 10:28 am Post subject: Re: Radiator card board deflectors |
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Phishman068 wrote: |
I've installed about ten sets of the Gowesty ones. They fit great, easy to install- absolutely great.
I wouldn't be spending time making them by hand given how good and easy the gowesty ones are. |
The driver's side is good, but required slight modification to fit correctly. The passenger side required quite a bit of modification to fit right. The bottom one was totally useless on my '90. IMHO, they're a waste of money for the late-model vans that have A/C.
When I removed the condenser, the side baffles went with it and I made a new bottom baffle since my old DIY version no longer covered the entire width. _________________ ~Kamz
1986 Cabriolet: www.Cabby-Info.com
1990 Vanagon Westfalia: Old Blue's Blog
2016 Golf GTI S
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dhaavers Samba Member

Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 8409 Location: NE MN (tinyurl.com/dhaaverslocation)
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:41 am Post subject: Re: Radiator card board deflectors |
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Phishman068 wrote: |
…I wouldn't be spending time making them by hand given how good and easy the gowesty ones are. |
I did though, because I have plenty of time…AND I’m cheap.
- Dave _________________ 86 White Wolfsburg Westy Weekender
"The WonderVan"
<EDITED TO PROTECT INNOCENT PIXELS> |
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Phishman068 Samba Member

Joined: February 19, 2007 Posts: 2002 Location: Pittsburgh PA (ish)
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4Gears4Tires Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2018 Posts: 4217 Location: MD
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:56 am Post subject: Re: Radiator card board deflectors |
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https://vancafe.com/radiator-baffle-set/
Van Cafe is $65, GoWesty is $60. But shipping with GW is probably going to far outstrip that $5.
For $60, that's right on the line of is it worth making it. I ordered from Van Cafe. _________________ '87 Syncro Ferric Oxyhydroxide Superleggera Edition
'85 Westy Sciuridae Domus Edition |
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Kdj Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2017 Posts: 274 Location: Naptown
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:30 am Post subject: Re: Radiator card board deflectors |
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After my engine swap noticed these where missing. Do they make an improvement? No evidence yet, but I don’t think they will hurt as VW had then there from the factory. I struggled to find and accurate template with all the dimensions. There are a couple of older pdf files on different sites that samba members have posted over the years.
Anyway this is my template, hope it helps someone. Made them out of a plastic card type stock that I found in the garage. Original ones where a coated cardboard. I drilled the mounting holes in place. The dotted lines are bends about 45 degrees seemed to work for each one. Bends are opposite for the left and right sides. Once you get them in place it becomes obvious how they fit. Also go-westy has a Video showing installation.
82 diesel radiator without a/c. Yet!
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Vanagon Nut Samba Member

Joined: February 08, 2008 Posts: 10497 Location: Sunshine Coast B.C.
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:30 am Post subject: |
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tencentlife wrote: |
They do very little, if your cooling system is otherwise in good working order you would never notice they were missing.
I have a customer's van that is getting a new radiator and he ordered the panels new from VC. I'm going to install them but if it was my own van, even with a used radiator I wouldn't bother with them, with a new rad I definitely wouldn't bother. |
On my engine swap, that was one of those details I was going to get around to once it was running. Never did. The lack of deflectors doesn't seem to be an issue. The cooling system is in good shape.
Neil. _________________ 1981 Westy DIY 15º ABA
(VW Gas I4)
1988 Westy DIY 50º ABA
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tencentlife Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2006 Posts: 10147 Location: Abiquiu, NM, USA
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:04 am Post subject: |
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The way I see it the one across the bottom is the only one that even conceivably raises pressure on the front face of the rad, and even that would be negligible because the pressure there is already high and once it touches the front of the rad the air is too viscous to escape the fins. It would be like the diffference between going 50 mph and 50.5 mph. The side ones couldn't produce any effect to speak of, there's barely any gap for them to fill. Yet another of VW's solutions in search of a problem. _________________ Shop for unique and useful Vanagon accessories at the Vanistan shop:
https://intrepidoverland.com/vanistan/
also available at VanCafe.com!
Please don't PM here, I will not reply.
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Pascal Samba Member

Joined: January 13, 2006 Posts: 833 Location: Fredericton, NB, Canada
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:11 am Post subject: |
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I've run mine with some of them missing and the original radiator. When I replaced the radiator I bought new ones from the Bus Depot and this year I discovered that one side of grill was missing it's deflector so I made one with several layers of roofing felt.
Bottom line thought is that I have seen not improvement in cooling with or without them. _________________ '84 Westy - 2.2wbx, GT Torque-Biasing Differential
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stevey88 Samba Member
Joined: January 16, 2008 Posts: 1317 Location: Fremont, SF Bay Area
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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Just the comment I wanted to hear. Thanks 10c. _________________ Steve
87 Westfalia full camper 4 speed |
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DAIZEE Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2010 Posts: 7552 Location: Greater Toronto Area Ontario West Side
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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thanks. _________________ '09 2.5L Jetta 5 cylinder, 5 spd, super turbo, see thread in H2O Cooled Jetta, etc...
83.5 Vanagon L Riviera Model with 98 1.9L TD AAZ 4 speed Daily Driver 3 out of 4 seasons (sold)
84 Vanagon GL Wolfsburg Westy WBX 4 speed (sold) |
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tencentlife Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2006 Posts: 10147 Location: Abiquiu, NM, USA
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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They do very little, if your cooling system is otherwise in good working order you would never notice they were missing.
I have a customer's van that is getting a new radiator and he ordered the panels new from VC. I'm going to install them but if it was my own van, even with a used radiator I wouldn't bother with them, with a new rad I definitely wouldn't bother. _________________ Shop for unique and useful Vanagon accessories at the Vanistan shop:
https://intrepidoverland.com/vanistan/
also available at VanCafe.com!
Please don't PM here, I will not reply.
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DAIZEE Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2010 Posts: 7552 Location: Greater Toronto Area Ontario West Side
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know re the condition of mine as I did not know of their existance and if I even have them. Can the absence of these lead to coolant system boiling? _________________ '09 2.5L Jetta 5 cylinder, 5 spd, super turbo, see thread in H2O Cooled Jetta, etc...
83.5 Vanagon L Riviera Model with 98 1.9L TD AAZ 4 speed Daily Driver 3 out of 4 seasons (sold)
84 Vanagon GL Wolfsburg Westy WBX 4 speed (sold) |
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Volksaholic Samba Member

Joined: December 26, 2005 Posts: 1771 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah, USA
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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The guy at Van-Cafe suggested that roofing felt (folks call it "tarpaper") has been suggested, and I considered scavenging some from a roofing job and laminating it with contact cement to build it up to 3/16" or so. I decided the one used piece I had to reuse was good enough, though... it was tired but not disintegrated.
pd _________________ 1988 Wolfsburg Edition, 2001 Subaru EJ251 |
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