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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Radiator card board deflectors Reply with quote

I have had the GoWesty version in my van for years. They've held up great. I did have to modify it when I upgraded to the crossflow AC condenser. I would recommend.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2025 2:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Radiator card board deflectors Reply with quote

I found strips of reinforced rubber.
Normally used to make cam belts.
Probably rigid workshop rubber flooring similar.
Pattern and sharp knife and it's done. Jigsaw cutter if really tough.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 3:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Radiator card board deflectors Reply with quote

kamzcab86 wrote:
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I've installed about ten sets of the Gowesty ones. They fit great, easy to install- absolutely great.


The bottom one was totally useless on my '90.


FWIW, here's a photo of GoWesty's bottom baffle vs. mine (A/C version):

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GoWesty's would not fit with my van's factory-original A/C condenser; no way, no how (unless modified). I stuck my DIY version back in. When I removed the condenser, GoWesty's still wouldn't fit properly to cover the entire gap, thus made a new, revised DIY version.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Radiator card board deflectors Reply with quote

Another baffled area that some may be doing without is the backside of the grille.

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The original cardboard eventually succumbs to rain but a replacement set from election signs is easy and durable.

No idea if they help but given where I live and travel I'll do anything that VW thought was good.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:04 am    Post subject: Re: Radiator card board deflectors Reply with quote

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IMHO, they're a waste of money for the late-model vans that have A/C.



Yeah, when I added AC to my 84 (using GWs condenser) I had to leave out the GW side baffles entirely, they just did not fit anymore

It didn't affect cooling performance at all though, so I haven't bothered with a replacement

The bottom GW is still in place and works great.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 10:50 am    Post subject: Re: Radiator card board deflectors Reply with quote

dhaavers wrote:
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…I wouldn't be spending time making them by hand given how good and easy the gowesty ones are.

I did though, because I have plenty of time…AND I’m cheap. Cool

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What he said Razz
Plus I like making things. Nothing against our great suppliers, but this was a no brainer no cost repair. Plus I got to do a little crafting.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 10:48 am    Post subject: Re: Radiator card board deflectors Reply with quote

For one of my Vanagons, I made a set out of coroplast political signs that were left over after the voting was done. They have lasted better than the stock/replacement cardboard.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 10:28 am    Post subject: Re: Radiator card board deflectors Reply with quote

Phishman068 wrote:
I've installed about ten sets of the Gowesty ones. They fit great, easy to install- absolutely great.

I wouldn't be spending time making them by hand given how good and easy the gowesty ones are.


The driver's side is good, but required slight modification to fit correctly. The passenger side required quite a bit of modification to fit right. The bottom one was totally useless on my '90. IMHO, they're a waste of money for the late-model vans that have A/C.

When I removed the condenser, the side baffles went with it and I made a new bottom baffle since my old DIY version no longer covered the entire width.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:41 am    Post subject: Re: Radiator card board deflectors Reply with quote

Phishman068 wrote:
…I wouldn't be spending time making them by hand given how good and easy the gowesty ones are.

I did though, because I have plenty of time…AND I’m cheap. Cool

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:01 am    Post subject: Re: Radiator card board deflectors Reply with quote

I've installed about ten sets of the Gowesty ones. They fit great, easy to install- absolutely great.

I wouldn't be spending time making them by hand given how good and easy the gowesty ones are.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:56 am    Post subject: Re: Radiator card board deflectors Reply with quote

https://vancafe.com/radiator-baffle-set/

Van Cafe is $65, GoWesty is $60. But shipping with GW is probably going to far outstrip that $5.

For $60, that's right on the line of is it worth making it. I ordered from Van Cafe.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:30 am    Post subject: Re: Radiator card board deflectors Reply with quote

After my engine swap noticed these where missing. Do they make an improvement? No evidence yet, but I don’t think they will hurt as VW had then there from the factory. I struggled to find and accurate template with all the dimensions. There are a couple of older pdf files on different sites that samba members have posted over the years.

Anyway this is my template, hope it helps someone. Made them out of a plastic card type stock that I found in the garage. Original ones where a coated cardboard. I drilled the mounting holes in place. The dotted lines are bends about 45 degrees seemed to work for each one. Bends are opposite for the left and right sides. Once you get them in place it becomes obvious how they fit. Also go-westy has a Video showing installation.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They do very little, if your cooling system is otherwise in good working order you would never notice they were missing.

I have a customer's van that is getting a new radiator and he ordered the panels new from VC. I'm going to install them but if it was my own van, even with a used radiator I wouldn't bother with them, with a new rad I definitely wouldn't bother.



On my engine swap, that was one of those details I was going to get around to once it was running. Never did. The lack of deflectors doesn't seem to be an issue. The cooling system is in good shape.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The way I see it the one across the bottom is the only one that even conceivably raises pressure on the front face of the rad, and even that would be negligible because the pressure there is already high and once it touches the front of the rad the air is too viscous to escape the fins. It would be like the diffference between going 50 mph and 50.5 mph. The side ones couldn't produce any effect to speak of, there's barely any gap for them to fill. Yet another of VW's solutions in search of a problem.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've run mine with some of them missing and the original radiator. When I replaced the radiator I bought new ones from the Bus Depot and this year I discovered that one side of grill was missing it's deflector so I made one with several layers of roofing felt.

Bottom line thought is that I have seen not improvement in cooling with or without them.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just the comment I wanted to hear. Thanks 10c.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They do very little, if your cooling system is otherwise in good working order you would never notice they were missing.

I have a customer's van that is getting a new radiator and he ordered the panels new from VC. I'm going to install them but if it was my own van, even with a used radiator I wouldn't bother with them, with a new rad I definitely wouldn't bother.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know re the condition of mine as I did not know of their existance and if I even have them. Can the absence of these lead to coolant system boiling?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The guy at Van-Cafe suggested that roofing felt (folks call it "tarpaper") has been suggested, and I considered scavenging some from a roofing job and laminating it with contact cement to build it up to 3/16" or so. I decided the one used piece I had to reuse was good enough, though... it was tired but not disintegrated.

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