BOSCH 0 231 178 009

user0815 · Samba Member Joined: July 27, 2007 Posts: 26

I was going to order a tune up kit today and found my distributor is a Bosch 0 231 178 008 , now I'm clueless as to what to order...... I found a cross reference chart online that says I should order:
points 01030
cond 02086
cap 03010
rotor 04033
now I'm even more confused, can't find these numbers on the vendor's websites.....

Is this distributor "correct" for a '68 Ghia with a 1500cc engine? When I say "correct" I mean, will it work correctly.... what car/engine is this distributor "correct" for ???

I know the engine ran fine with this dizzy, last time it ran was 2007 though..... getting close to getting it back to life and just wondering if it will run better with a different dizzy......

tasb · Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:57 am Post subject:

After several discussions it has been pointed out that these distributors are fairly rare as most industrial engines were supplied with magnetos rather than distributors.
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tasb · Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:46 pm Post subject:

...and here we have the critter to which I was referring too:

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Note that it has a VW logo and a VW part #. I've seen more than my share of 009's but this one is a first.

According to several sources and Bosch microfiche, this distributor is the predecessor to the 009. I have run it on my Sun Distributor Tester and it has a curve very close to that of the 009. It is designated as an industrial engine distributor specifically for VW engines. That is not something that the 009 can claim. There is also a 0 231 178 001 out there somewhere that had VW applications.
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tasb · Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:13 pm Post subject:

I found one reference to early 009"s. It's the oldvokshome website. It is one of the better distributor interchange references but it is not perfect. It lists the following:

0 231 178 001
0 231 178 003
0 231 178 009

all three cross referencing back to a 0 231 178 009.
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Glenn · Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:36 pm Post subject:

tasb · Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:32 pm Post subject:

Still searching but this I can tell you, if you go to the oddball distributor thread you will find an VI 4 BR 8 instead a a VJ 4 BR 8. I've had both on my Sun Machine and their curves are pretty close if not meant to be the same. You won't find any reference to the VI 4 BR 8 anywhere but it does exist. Perhaps it was a 1 231 178 008 I'm looking for I can't recall.
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Glenn · Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:40 pm Post subject:

My point was you can't trust things on the internet.

I don't see how Bosch would produce 2 exact same distributors with different numbers.

Unless you mean the 009 and 094 where the 094 was a 009 with a chrome body.

Nothing personal, just some Samba humor.
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tasb · Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:37 pm Post subject:

ok Glenn, not quite sure how to take the above but sometimes even the Master can learn a thing or two...
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Glenn · Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:37 pm Post subject:

tasb · Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:35 pm Post subject:

understood, nonetheless its been posted in here somewher.
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Glenn · Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:33 pm Post subject:

Every BOSCH 009 i've seen had the same number 0231 178 009.

If it had a different number it had a different curve.
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tasb · Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:31 pm Post subject:

Somewhere hiding in the forums is some information on early 009's that had a different part number than the more common German 009's= 0 231 178 009. I have done 8 differnet search ques and can't find any info. Can anyone with a better memory help out? I am interested from a historical perspective. Somewhere there is even a cast iron X XXX XXX 009. Thanks.
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Glenn · Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:47 am Post subject:

glutamodo · Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:45 pm Post subject:

I've often wondered that myself - I'm sure that was Bosch's decision, and probably just total luck of the draw. There were actually like 5 VW and Porsche/914 distributors that ended in 009.

DHMaher · Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:32 pm Post subject:

Haha... ok thanks! With all those possible number combinations I wonder why did they named more than one 009...
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glutamodo · Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:12 pm Post subject:

Not the last few posts - he asked at the beginning what his current centrifugal 009 might be worth... and the discussion about German vs Brazil, etc sprang from that.

DHMaher · Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:40 pm Post subject:

Are we still talking about the 205K 009s?
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60ragtop · Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:44 pm Post subject:

zundapp · Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:36 pm Post subject:

Keep the bracket on it when you pull it out. Stick it under the back seat for a spare. If you ever need to replace your distributor on the road, you can just drop it in and it will already be timed and gapped.

glutamodo · Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:10 pm Post subject:


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