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shortride
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| Meaning aftermarket new- not factory, right Shortride? |
Pre 1961 the reinforcement brackets are Black. '61 and up are supposed to be L91 silver. These are the colors whether there aftermarket or factory. The ones I bought are new but exact copies of the factory ones. |
That's what I was asking- because my factory original brackets on my '63 were painted silver- not zinc like you bought. If you had NOS VW-made brackets- they would be silver or black painted.
I bolded your text because most aftermarket companies don't give a rip about what should be- and I've never seen a company give you a choice- let alone the right shade of silver. I hope you are using German bumper brackets (or at least WW) if you are assembling bumpers right now (especially the rear one).
By the way- those reinforcement brackets came out nice! |
I'm guess but I would think the after market manufacturer plated them because it may be hard to sell rusted parts off the shelf and plating is cheaper than painting in manufacturing quantifies.
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hitest
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| hitest wrote: |
| Meaning aftermarket new- not factory, right Shortride? |
Pre 1961 the reinforcement brackets are Black. '61 and up are supposed to be L91 silver. These are the colors whether there aftermarket or factory. The ones I bought are new but exact copies of the factory ones. |
That's what I was asking- because my factory original brackets on my '63 were painted silver- not zinc like you bought. If you had NOS VW-made brackets- they would be silver or black painted.
I bolded your text because most aftermarket companies don't give a rip about what should be- and I've never seen a company give you a choice- let alone the right shade of silver. I hope you are using German bumper brackets (or at least WW) if you are assembling bumpers right now (especially the rear one).
By the way- those reinforcement brackets came out nice!
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I wonder what the nut looks like.
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'62 L390 151, '62 L469 117, '63 L380 113, '64 L87 311, '65 L512 265, '65 L31 SO-42, '66 L360 251, '68 L30k 141, '71 L12 113, '74 ORG 181
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shortride
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branston
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| Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:37 pm Post subject: Re: bumper reinforcement bracket colors?? |
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| what color should the bumper reinforce brackets parts be on a 1958 type 1 should they be black like the brackets or silver like the back of the bumper ? thanks |
IMHO they should be the same color as the bumper tubes and mounting brackets.
My very reliable ex-VW partsman told me all replacement bumpers came with black everything except silver backside of the bumper and further confirmed when we opened my boxed NOS one. |
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hitest
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Meaning aftermarket new- not factory, right Shortride?
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I wonder what the nut looks like.
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'62 L390 151, '62 L469 117, '63 L380 113, '64 L87 311, '65 L512 265, '65 L31 SO-42, '66 L360 251, '68 L30k 141, '71 L12 113, '74 ORG 181
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shortride
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Helfen
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| Yes Bill. |
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bill may
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:22 am Post subject: |
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| are the brackets different? or just the colors? |
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For 1965 on the single blade Euro bumper and the Deluxe Towel rack bumper for Europe and all Canadian standards (1200 Customs) The blade bracket is only two piece instead of the U.S. deluxe blade bracket which has the third reinforcement piece welded in-between. So yes the brackets are different and the color.
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obviously you mean 3 layer rear bracket and not 2 layer front bracket.
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Helfen
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| are the brackets different? or just the colors? |
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For 1965 on the single blade Euro bumper and the Deluxe Towel rack bumper for Europe and all Canadian standards (1200 Customs) The blade bracket is only two piece instead of the U.S. deluxe blade bracket which has the third reinforcement piece welded in-between. So yes the brackets are different and the color.
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GüteAndTite
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jeffros 58
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:04 am Post subject: |
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| what about the reinforcement plates in the bumper ? black also or silver to match the inside of bumper blade ? |
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ejonn
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| Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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| are the brackets different? or just the colors? |
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Helfen
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| Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| 61 and up the brackets were silver. 60 and down they are black, just like what's pictured above. |
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You mean 61 and up on deluxe is L91 silver, and standard L328 steel gray.
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wasn't aware of that- didnt get standards in the USA- you in Canada? Please post pics of the differences! |
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No, I'm in central Ca. near the coast. I do have a 65 111 that was built almost like a Canadian standard (called a 1200 Custom) sans a few different items. L-328 looks like this;
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/519384.jpg
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Helfen
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| 61 and up the brackets were silver. 60 and down they are black, just like what's pictured above. |
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You mean 61 and up on deluxe is L91 silver, and standard L328 steel gray.
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Except CKD cars..........
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61 and up the brackets were silver. 60 and down they are black, just like what's pictured above.
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wayne1230cars
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Black on a 1958. This pic is an original 1960 and they were still using black.[img][/img]
The ad is for a 1961 bug and shows the silver brackets. |
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