1965 Beetle Project

Rome · Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:10 pm Post subject:

Nice going so far! You are indeed lucky to have such a solid, unrotted body.

Have you decided on the BRM wheels, or will you repaint the stockers (2-tone cream+black)?

Your engine definitely has the heads from a 40hp 1200. The intake manifold comes straight down to the head, and the attachment flange is perpendicular to the top of the head. The 1300's and later single-ports had an intake manifold that comes in slightly at an angle to the head. The plaque on the fan shroud is unusual. 44hp is the German DIN power rating normally associated with the 1500cc engine (equivalent to 53hp SAE). Still, for your $80 you have a solid base for a decent running engine. Will you take it apart as a precaution?

Have you decided on front disc brakes on those lowered spindles, or are you sticking with stock drums?

In 1990 I bought a '65 Beetle sedan "rolling shell" only about 15 miles from my house. It had a low-budget repaint in the stock original Fontana Grey but did not have an engine nor an interior. I bought it for $250 at the time Very Happy

. Ended up selling it to a coworker who assembled it and used it as a daily driver for a few years. I sold it for a bit more than my purchase price, and built a stock 1600 dual-port out of good used parts. It was great to see it running and driving from his efforts.

Cjm005 · Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 3:37 pm Post subject:

I got to spend some time in the garage today because it was way too cold for cycling today. Spent a few hours installing FatMat (Dynamat alternative) on the floor and tunnel. Overall the stuff is pretty easy to install - and hoping it will cut down on some of the road noise. I also plan on installing inside the doors, trunk area and roof.

Also took the pedal assembly apart, re-greased everything, painted gloss black and installed the Unique Parts Speed Ball conversion kit. This thing really does make a difference on the pedal action.

Next up will install the pedal assembly, start plumbing the back brakes and hopefully get the steering / front brakes finished.

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Cjm005 · Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:09 pm Post subject:

Cjm005 · Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:01 pm Post subject:

Type 2
Code Year Engine/Notes
20- Pre-Jan., 1956 25hp/36hp
20- prefix indicates Type 2 and is not part of the sequential engine number.
2, 3, 4 55-60 1200cc, 36hp (includes “Bastard 40hp”)
5, 6, 7, 8, 9 1961-65 1200cc, 40hp
O 1963-65 1500cc - no cam bearings
H0 1966-67 1500cc

Type 1
Code Year Engine/Notes
1- Pre-Jan., 1956 25hp/36hp
1- prefix indicates Type 1 and is not part of the sequential engine number.
2, 3, 4 1955-65 1200cc 30bhp DIN, 36HP SAE (“A” series engine)
5, 6, 7, 8, 9 1961-65 1200cc 34bhp DIN, 40HP SAE (“VW D” added below serial after 9247364)
D0, D1 1966-1985 1200cc 34bhp DIN, 40HP SAE For Mexican made 1200s after 1977.
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Cjm005 · Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:58 pm Post subject:

While scouring local CL ads, I came across this ad for a 1300 VW motor in Houston. The pictures looked super clean - and seller said it still had the original generator, relay, etc. still attached. Went and picked it up this evening - paid the huge sum of $80.00 for this really clean motor. Looking at the case, it's actually a 65/66 1200 40 HP - seems like the symbol at the beginning and X at the end means it was actually a VW warranty motor?

But the VW tag on the engine seems to indicate the motor is actually a 65/66 1500 from a Type 2? Something is goofy?

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HotRod06 · Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:26 pm Post subject: Making Progress

Looking good
keep the pictures coming it inspires me to get into the garage and get working on my 65
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sportin-wood · Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:12 pm Post subject:

Looking good. Gotta love the progress!
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Cjm005 · Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:23 pm Post subject:

A little bit more done this week - hoping to get a good push done over the next few weeks. Here is how she sits as of today:

Dual reservoir mounted and steering box cleaned up, re-greased and mounted:

Next up... going to finish repair to the backing plates, install the front brakes, new tie rods, steering dampener. Afterwards, I'll need to save up for the front wheels and tires.
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Cjm005 · Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 4:53 pm Post subject:

Some work done this weekend. Got the sway bar mounted again with new hardware, installed the shocks (turned out to be the old sleeves stuck on the studs - thanks Samba!) and some of the brake lines mounted. I have not finished the steering box yet - it is just mounted for initial reference.

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Cjm005 · Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:27 am Post subject:

raycer60 · Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:02 am Post subject:

I was telling myself about missing on the beautyfull weather too when I went to a car show this past friday in Pearland and saw a few bugs. Mine is far from being drivable, so I will set my goal for Fall of 2014.
BTW, you mentioned: "Went with a friend to a local (Houston) VW graveyard and picked up a few missing parts." Where would that graveyard be?
I would love to see the finished EELCO valve covers. I have a set on my engine too.
Keep up the good work.

Cjm005 · Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:28 pm Post subject:

This project is going sloooooow......... Sad

I'm missing all of this beautiful fall weather in Texas for driving....

I tried to mount the WW shocks this morning - they won't fit over the lower sleeves on the torsion bars. Next up is getting the newly painted sway bar reinstalled with new hardware.

I really want to get this front axle buttoned up with new wheels / tires so I can move to the back and get this thing rolling.
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Cjm005 · Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:25 pm Post subject:

I got some work done today, not much - I ended up running into some problems. I did get the '67 style master cylinder mounted with new sleeves and bolts. I tried to mount the front backing plates, but 1 is missing the clips that hold the adjuster one, the 2nd is bent where the wheel cylinder bolts to. I would like to keep these, but I might have to look for a replacement.

My friend is in charge of cleaning up the valve covers - so far he has done a good job at getting the paint off and start polishing them.

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Cjm005 · Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:32 pm Post subject:

After some research, looks like they are EELCO valve covers, the part number stamped inside is 6070:

http://www.volksrods.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35843

Pretty cool.

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Cjm005 · Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:26 pm Post subject:

Not much done over the last few weeks, life has been getting in the way. I have the 2.5" drop spindles mounted with new king pin and link pin bushings:

I did get a nice box of parts from WW today to start putting the front brakes back together. All new master cylinder, brake hoses, brake hardware kit, wheel cylinders, pads:

I found these sweet vintage valve covers at VW swap meet this weekend. The seller said who they were made by (I forgot now) but I think they are going to look sweet all black with the fins polished aluminum:

Next up is to finish the front brakes, get the master cylinder and brake lines plumbed, finish the front suspension and get the new wheels mounted with tires.

I'm torn between getting the stock smoothies restored with white wall tires, or buying a set of EMPI wheels like these:

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Raul_MX · Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:48 am Post subject:

Cjm005: Go to places that handle truck suspensions. That is how igot mine done... the shaft for the dropped spindles was very small and thin compared to those off a truck, but the shop should get the job done reaming the pins in!
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Boom · Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:35 pm Post subject:

Kermit's offers this service as well as Donnie smith at smith foreign auto.
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Cjm005 · Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:09 pm Post subject:

Very much in the plans!

Does ANYBODY know someone in Houston who can press and ream bushings?
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grandpa pete · Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:26 pm Post subject:

HI`! just poped over from the "building a sedan delivery " thread...You have reminded me why I bought a COMPLETED chassis to start with....I WON'T miss all that part of the build Razz

.....................Note: please look into a DUAL circuit master cylinder;I have one in my 63
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