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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:46 am    Post subject: Re: Vanagon LED lighting upgrades and HID projector retrofit Reply with quote

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Hi guys
I just upgraded my 86 westy to the square trucklite 27450C headlights.

Hey dhaines what do you think after a few months? These have been on my list for a while


I am as pleased today as I was when I first installed them. I just hop into the van and go anywhere at night.
I have done some minor adjustments to get the pattern just right against the road.

I've given up on installing a LED light bar because there is no need for one, just flick on the high beams and you are good to go.

The only complaint I have is with the "V" shaped spots in the center of the light pattern. I am concerned that they may be a bit too bright and could blind people so I have both lights adjusted so that the V isn't anywhere near the faces of oncoming drivers.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:49 am    Post subject: Re: Vanagon LED lighting upgrades and HID projector retrofit Reply with quote

dhaines wrote:
Hi guys
I just upgraded my 86 westy to the square trucklite 27450C headlights.

I must say that they are awesome and I really enjoy the light output. The light artifact is a bit odd when you look directly at it but it is a minor drawback considering how much more road/terrain is visible.

I picked up a set of buckets and adjusters from the junkyard.

Instead of drilling new holes into the headlight frame for the adjusters, I stuck them into the stock holes with a couple of bolts.

Then I cut the adjuster mounts off of the junkyard headlight buckets and welded them in position to match the adjuster location

If I ever want to go back to the stock headlights, all I need are new adjusters.

I was considering an LED light bar for the front bumper, but now I think that these headlights are plenty bright, especially with the high beams on!


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I am thinking of upgrading my Projekt Zwo upper grille with LED headlights. Im after some better low beams. And i wonder if those Trucklites are the exact same size as my current lights:

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The outer ones are Hella DE projector low beams only, and the inner are high beams only (really shitty ones, hence the row of Rally 3000s). But with the 3000s as high beam, I also want better low beams.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Vanagon LED lighting upgrades and HID projector retrofit Reply with quote

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Projector LED content: I'm running JW Speaker 8700 Evolution 2 7" rounds, in GW "new" style buckets (with metal adjusters) in a 1985 grille, with relays.

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I've put about 6,000 miles on these lights so far. They are awesome. Consistent color temperature from the moment they are turned on. Low current draw. No heat generation. No offending blue color. Properly aimed, no dazzle or flashing from oncoming drivers. Polycarbonate lens. Totally plug and play.

kourt

Nice!! Any more pics of your Van with the JWS headlights?? I can't decide on black or clear for my SA Grille.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Vanagon LED lighting upgrades and HID projector retrofit Reply with quote

I bought cheap Chinese knock-offs of the JW Speaker style 7” round LED headlights by a company called “Lantsun” ($115/pair on Amazon). They have integrated LED halo style DRLs that change color and flash amber with the turn signals. These were featured by another member earlier in one of the many LED headlight threads. Bottomline... the low beams SUCK although the high beams are actually pretty good couples with my inner SA halogens. I trust that the JW Speakers must be (hopefully) significantly better for the money ($450/pair). Not sure I’m going to keep the Lantsuns or not. Confused Embarassed https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VV085WI/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:51 am    Post subject: Re: Vanagon LED lighting upgrades and HID projector retrofit Reply with quote

dhaines wrote:
Hi guys
I just upgraded my 86 westy to the square trucklite 27450C headlights.

Hey dhaines what do you think after a few months? These have been on my list for a while
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:00 am    Post subject: Re: Vanagon LED lighting upgrades and HID projector retrofit Reply with quote

I put LED's in and actually added a relay kit as well. While the LED's use less power, I still wanted to reduce the amount of current through my ignition switch as much as possible.

That said, I believe most LED's can operate on a wide range of DC voltage without any fluctuation in brightness. The good units are usually digitally controlled and adjust for varying source voltage. So the argument of maximizing voltage to the headlights with relays is probably weaker here. The only thing you will do is slightly cut down on current draw with a slightly higher voltage as the controller will be adjusting to stabilized total power draw (watts).
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Vanagon LED lighting upgrades and HID projector retrofit Reply with quote

As long as the LED headlights are plug n play I don't see why you would remove the relays. Even though the LED's use less power you still want the maximum going to the lights and by passing the headlight switch.
I still don't know why people insist on buying those crappy gowesty relay kits when you can easily install a fully relayed harness directly to the battery.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/9004-Heavy-Duty-Headlight-...2749.l2649

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:19 am    Post subject: Re: Vanagon LED lighting upgrades and HID projector retrofit Reply with quote

I need to some headlight advice!

I currently have the SA grill and high power light kit from GW. Just got some 7" round LEDS and wondering if I should pull out all the high power relays before installing the LEDs.

Thanks guys!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Vanagon LED lighting upgrades and HID projector retrofit Reply with quote

New upgrade, replaced CF center cab light with 4 LEDs. Very bright. Like daytime.

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HIDs in Orly Blue Carat:

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Vanagon LED lighting upgrades and HID projector retrofit Reply with quote

Been there done that with HID. Retrofitting HID is like going backwards.
I have JW Speaker LED's in my Wrangler and plan on installing them into the Westy.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:25 am    Post subject: Re: Vanagon LED lighting upgrades and HID projector retrofit Reply with quote

https://www.amazon.com/GENSSI-Projector-Headlight-Sealed-Replacement/dp/B014Q6HSJE
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 4:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Vanagon LED lighting upgrades and HID projector retrofit Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 2:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Vanagon LED lighting upgrades and HID projector retrofit Reply with quote

My van:

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So far I'm impressed with this upgrade (vanonimous assisted)

Thanks vanonimous!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Vanagon LED lighting upgrades and HID projector retrofit Reply with quote

yiucycle wrote:
you got links to those led lights? thanks


Sure, there are many vendors of these on eBay, here is one random example (I'm not associated with seller):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/6x-White-Car-COB-LED-Light...mp;vxp=mtr
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Vanagon LED lighting upgrades and HID projector retrofit Reply with quote

you got links to those led lights? thanks
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Vanagon LED lighting upgrades and HID projector retrofit Reply with quote

bajaleo - I attached them to lower edge of the dash (lights come with soft adhesive tape on them), drilled a small hole, inserted wires trough a rubber grommet and hooked the wires up to the switch part of the original light.

I originally intended a small separate lighted switch but wanted to try this first.

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When removing the original map light it's wise to take out the fuse #3 (15amp 3rd from left) since it almost always blows.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:13 am    Post subject: Re: Vanagon LED lighting upgrades and HID projector retrofit Reply with quote

Nice! I'd like to see some more pictures of your install.


vanonimous wrote:
dhaines - that looks like a very good lighting output. Nice install too!

Anyone else tired of not having enough map light? These were 6 for $10 delivered. I used only two since they are so bright and hooked them up to the tiny original map light switch. They also double up as glove box light:

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Vanagon LED lighting upgrades and HID projector retrofit Reply with quote

dhaines - that looks like a very good lighting output. Nice install too!

Anyone else tired of not having enough map light? These were 6 for $10 delivered. I used only two since they are so bright and hooked them up to the tiny original map light switch. They also double up as glove box light:

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:08 am    Post subject: Re: Vanagon LED lighting upgrades and HID projector retrofit Reply with quote

Hi guys
I just upgraded my 86 westy to the square trucklite 27450C headlights.

I must say that they are awesome and I really enjoy the light output. The light artifact is a bit odd when you look directly at it but it is a minor drawback considering how much more road/terrain is visible.

I picked up a set of buckets and adjusters from the junkyard.

Instead of drilling new holes into the headlight frame for the adjusters, I stuck them into the stock holes with a couple of bolts.

Then I cut the adjuster mounts off of the junkyard headlight buckets and welded them in position to match the adjuster location

If I ever want to go back to the stock headlights, all I need are new adjusters.

I was considering an LED light bar for the front bumper, but now I think that these headlights are plenty bright, especially with the high beams on!


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:32 am    Post subject: Re: Vanagon LED lighting upgrades and HID projector retrofit Reply with quote

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