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s.e.charles
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TinCanFab
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| Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: My 1965 1200cc vintage speed theme.. |
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because i simply don't know these things .... why an Ampco oiler and an oil filter ???
does the Ampco jar only act a an added reservoir?
and (feeling needy here) how is it plumbed?
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The Ampco is a "top end oiler", it is fed into the air intake/carb venturi. You fill it with Marvel Mystery oil and it lubricates by misting oil into the intake tract. The lid to the oiler has an adjustable metering device. The fitting that goes into the carb/intake has a specific size orifice.
The other can is an actual oil filter, for pressurized engine oil.
Both are accessories and don't have anything to do with each other.
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s.e.charles
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| Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:56 am Post subject: Re: My 1965 1200cc vintage speed theme.. |
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because i simply don't know these things .... why an Ampco oiler and an oil filter ???
does the Ampco jar only act a an added reservoir?
and (feeling needy here) how is it plumbed?
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DONGKG
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| Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:17 pm Post subject: Re: My 1965 1200cc vintage speed theme.. |
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| Rome wrote: |
DONG, how do you manage to reach the mixture and idle screws on the right carb? Aren't those partially blocked by the fan shroud, or do you have a special tool (i.e., right angle screwdriver) to reach them? Or is the manifold angled back slightly so that the carb is rearward of the fan shroud side?
Red painted engine case... sexy!
You mentioned the carbs are 30 PICTs, yet it looks like they have a manual choke? By comparison, US-spec 30 PICTs had electric chokes. |
Good day.
I have a screw driver that really fts in between the fan shroud and the carb. Though it's a tight stop to adjust the mixture screw, but with bucket full of patience, it can be accomplished. As far as I can remember, those are Brosol Solex 30 PICT carbs that have manual choke. Though I will have it checked later.
When I bought my '65, the engine was with red color. Scraping the paint may leave permanent marks on the case that is why I left it as is. But, given the chance, I'd like it in magnesium color.
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DongKG
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Rome
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: My 1965 1200cc vintage speed theme.. |
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DONG, how do you manage to reach the mixture and idle screws on the right carb? Aren't those partially blocked by the fan shroud, or do you have a special tool (i.e., right angle screwdriver) to reach them? Or is the manifold angled back slightly so that the carb is rearward of the fan shroud side?
Red painted engine case... sexy!
You mentioned the carbs are 30 PICTs, yet it looks like they have a manual choke? By comparison, US-spec 30 PICTs had electric chokes. |
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DONGKG
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Great build, Dong! How did you weld the manifolds?
Can I use a MIG welder and wire or is it aluminum brazing or some such?
Also, where on the manifolds did you tap the Ampco oiler?
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Sorry for the late reply! I just used an acetylene type welder. I worked perfectly!
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OK, I must have missed this one on my first search. But I found my answer to the "weld or braze on manifolds" question from Bub:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=326666&highlight=welding+manifold
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Pretty simple to make a dual carb kit for almost any application. I did it with a 40hp on a dune buggy I built a couple years back, it used two 28/30PICT carbs.
You need the lower (head) flange from the 40hp, cut maybe a couple inches above the flange, some appropriate pipe (sectioning the VW intake works fine) and two manifold to carb flanges. The good thing is the 40hp manifolds are cheap/free most of the time, so all you need is a welder, some beer and a free saturday afternoon.
You mock it up on your longblock, spot weld and finish the manifolds. In my case I heated the manifolds and slightly 'bent' one to get correct offset. I made linkage hidden on the front of the shroud using steel rod I bought at the hardware store and random dual carb linkage pieces. If you've seen many of the old kits you can easily picture how to make it, and it seriously works fine, many times better than the old stuff.
Vintage is always cooler, but even with a decent wallet they can be hard to find. |
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Great build, Dong! How did you weld the manifolds?
Can I use a MIG welder and wire or is it aluminum brazing or some such?
Also, where on the manifolds did you tap the Ampco oiler?
Thanks!
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Hi dongkg motor looks great. What are you going to do next on your car ?i know your not done lol .spencerfvee
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| Rome wrote: |
With all those lines and coils on the engine, you'd think you have a small distillery going! 
The FRAM filter really does bring the engine appearance back to the '60's. |
thanks buddy! |
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DONGKG
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| Rome wrote: |
With all those lines and coils on the engine, you'd think you have a small distillery going!
The FRAM filter really does bring the engine appearance back to the '60's. |
thanks buddy!
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With all those lines and coils on the engine, you'd think you have a small distillery going!
The FRAM filter really does bring the engine appearance back to the '60's. |
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DONGKG
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epic build.
any pics of the country buggy? (Sakbayan) |
Thanks buddy! The Country buggy is hibernating!
I recently installed a NOS Fram Oil Filters. I have 3 more extra NOS fram oil filters!
Doing the inventory of the needed parts and checking the Fram. It's really cool installing this NOS fram. I was thinking whether to install it, it is a good thing I have three more extra NOS Fram. So installing this fresh from bhe box NOS Fram and letting it go was easy!
Installed one! I looks really classic. Now my vintage theme 1965 bug is getting into share.
WHo knows, next time, I can stumble a NOS Oksara somewhere along the way! ..... wishful thinking I guess!
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epic build.
any pics of the country buggy? (Sakbayan)
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Two weeks ago, I found these two NOS Fram filters, which I will install on my 65 ragtop vintage speed and resto-custon 1967 bus. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=539202&highlight=
Then just today, I went at the store and they found ather two Fram filters. And you won't believe! Both are still sealed and I was the one who broke the seals just to check the contents. The other one is still sealed!
The sealed Fram Filters.
After tearing the seal! The box inside is still with its original tapes.
Just opened after so many years!
The instructions!
The NOS Fram Filter.
Now I have four NOS Fram Filters. I will install one of these on my 1965 ragtop!
I will install the other one on my forthcoming 1959 'vert project!
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DONGKG
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Hey Dong- clever work! Did you use the straight section of the original intake manifold pipe (between the left down-turn for the head, and the left edge of the aluminum heat riser casting) for your "down" section of the new manifold? With the new manifolds' outward tilting, did you happen to check if they would fit an engine with the fresh air fan shroud outlets? Looks like they could.
So how does the engine run with the two carbs? Is the engine still a 1200 40hp, or did you install the big-bore cylinders? Did you need to change the jets in the carbs at all? |
Thanks!
I used the two old k-manifolds and the long straight part of the manifold was used. In fact that long part of the manifold was the one that joined the end casting for heads and carbs. I was not able to check if it can fit the fan shroud with fresh air. But if that fan shroud would have been used, I guess I would have made some adjustments on the angle of the manifolds in order for the carbs to fit well. But I guess it willfit.
At first the engine was running quite rich but when we replaced the jetings and installed the Bosch 009, it was running better now. And I can truly say that the engine was given some extra ponies in the process!
Absolutely, it was a 1200cc engine with 40 hp.
Thanks,
Dong |
Hi dong .i like guys like you .that show others .that you don't need a lot of money .to get what you want . One cool looking dual carb set up .you only need a good welder used parts .and the time it takes to put it all together . Same with your oil cooler .you now have a one of kind dual carb set up that no one else has . Keep up the good work can't wait to see what you make next for your bug spencerfvee |
thanks so much buddy. This vintage speed theme is my favorite. I guess if you've been into.the vw scene for so long a time you will outgrown the hunger of bigger engines and would opt to venture on the vintage performance side. That has happened to me. And i next project is a 1959 convertible beetle with the vintage sped theme in mind again. Thanks for the wonderful comments! |
Hi dong. Your post got me thinking so I had two vanguard 40hp manifolds but no linkage for them it was missing . So off to a tractor farm parts store I got every thing to make a linkage .went to my vw parts store got more parts 2days later I had my cross bar linkage all done I used two 30 pic carbs for a 1967 bug .i am very happy with the linkage and carb set up its real smoth my 40 hp motor has a big bore kit and big valve heads and a cam fully ported heads . This motor is going in my formula vee .i did have a pepco super charger on my 40 hp motor. but I am putting the super charger on a other motor thanks for getting me fired up on making the linkage for my 40 hp vee motor and it only cost me $75.00 for all the parts and a good friend gave me the intake manifolds will post pictures today take care buddy spencerfvee
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Wow, that is so amazing! It was a cool set up, just like what I did. I know that youa re very proud of the result. I like the set up.! It is so so cool. Keep it up, buddy!
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| spencerfvee wrote: |
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| Rome wrote: |
Hey Dong- clever work! Did you use the straight section of the original intake manifold pipe (between the left down-turn for the head, and the left edge of the aluminum heat riser casting) for your "down" section of the new manifold? With the new manifolds' outward tilting, did you happen to check if they would fit an engine with the fresh air fan shroud outlets? Looks like they could.
So how does the engine run with the two carbs? Is the engine still a 1200 40hp, or did you install the big-bore cylinders? Did you need to change the jets in the carbs at all? |
Thanks!
I used the two old k-manifolds and the long straight part of the manifold was used. In fact that long part of the manifold was the one that joined the end casting for heads and carbs. I was not able to check if it can fit the fan shroud with fresh air. But if that fan shroud would have been used, I guess I would have made some adjustments on the angle of the manifolds in order for the carbs to fit well. But I guess it willfit.
At first the engine was running quite rich but when we replaced the jetings and installed the Bosch 009, it was running better now. And I can truly say that the engine was given some extra ponies in the process!
Absolutely, it was a 1200cc engine with 40 hp.
Thanks,
Dong |
Hi dong .i like guys like you .that show others .that you don't need a lot of money .to get what you want . One cool looking dual carb set up .you only need a good welder used parts .and the time it takes to put it all together . Same with your oil cooler .you now have a one of kind dual carb set up that no one else has . Keep up the good work can't wait to see what you make next for your bug spencerfvee |
thanks so much buddy. This vintage speed theme is my favorite. I guess if you've been into.the vw scene for so long a time you will outgrown the hunger of bigger engines and would opt to venture on the vintage performance side. That has happened to me. And i next project is a 1959 convertible beetle with the vintage sped theme in mind again. Thanks for the wonderful comments! |
Hi dong. Your post got me thinking so I had two vanguard 40hp manifolds but no linkage for them it was missing . So off to a tractor farm parts store I got every thing to make a linkage .went to my vw parts store got more parts 2days later I had my cross bar linkage all done I used two 30 pic carbs for a 1967 bug .i am very happy with the linkage and carb set up its real smoth my 40 hp motor has a big bore kit and big valve heads and a cam fully ported heads . This motor is going in my formula vee .i did have a pepco super charger on my 40 hp motor. but I am putting the super charger on a other motor thanks for getting me fired up on making the linkage for my 40 hp vee motor and it only cost me $75.00 for all the parts and a good friend gave me the intake manifolds will post pictures today take care buddy spencerfvee
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Did you use a fuel filter for the oil?
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DONGKG
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| Rome wrote: |
Hey Dong- clever work! Did you use the straight section of the original intake manifold pipe (between the left down-turn for the head, and the left edge of the aluminum heat riser casting) for your "down" section of the new manifold? With the new manifolds' outward tilting, did you happen to check if they would fit an engine with the fresh air fan shroud outlets? Looks like they could.
So how does the engine run with the two carbs? Is the engine still a 1200 40hp, or did you install the big-bore cylinders? Did you need to change the jets in the carbs at all? |
Thanks!
I used the two old k-manifolds and the long straight part of the manifold was used. In fact that long part of the manifold was the one that joined the end casting for heads and carbs. I was not able to check if it can fit the fan shroud with fresh air. But if that fan shroud would have been used, I guess I would have made some adjustments on the angle of the manifolds in order for the carbs to fit well. But I guess it willfit.
At first the engine was running quite rich but when we replaced the jetings and installed the Bosch 009, it was running better now. And I can truly say that the engine was given some extra ponies in the process!
Absolutely, it was a 1200cc engine with 40 hp.
Thanks,
Dong |
Hi dong .i like guys like you .that show others .that you don't need a lot of money .to get what you want . One cool looking dual carb set up .you only need a good welder used parts .and the time it takes to put it all together . Same with your oil cooler .you now have a one of kind dual carb set up that no one else has . Keep up the good work can't wait to see what you make next for your bug spencerfvee |
thanks so much buddy. This vintage speed theme is my favorite. I guess if you've been into.the vw scene for so long a time you will outgrown the hunger of bigger engines and would opt to venture on the vintage performance side. That has happened to me. And i next project is a 1959 convertible beetle with the vintage sped theme in mind again. Thanks for the wonderful comments!
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| Rome wrote: |
Hey Dong- clever work! Did you use the straight section of the original intake manifold pipe (between the left down-turn for the head, and the left edge of the aluminum heat riser casting) for your "down" section of the new manifold? With the new manifolds' outward tilting, did you happen to check if they would fit an engine with the fresh air fan shroud outlets? Looks like they could.
So how does the engine run with the two carbs? Is the engine still a 1200 40hp, or did you install the big-bore cylinders? Did you need to change the jets in the carbs at all? |
Thanks!
I used the two old k-manifolds and the long straight part of the manifold was used. In fact that long part of the manifold was the one that joined the end casting for heads and carbs. I was not able to check if it can fit the fan shroud with fresh air. But if that fan shroud would have been used, I guess I would have made some adjustments on the angle of the manifolds in order for the carbs to fit well. But I guess it willfit.
At first the engine was running quite rich but when we replaced the jetings and installed the Bosch 009, it was running better now. And I can truly say that the engine was given some extra ponies in the process!
Absolutely, it was a 1200cc engine with 40 hp.
Thanks,
Dong |
Hi dong .i like guys like you .that show others .that you don't need a lot of money .to get what you want . One cool looking dual carb set up .you only need a good welder used parts .and the time it takes to put it all together . Same with your oil cooler .you now have a one of kind dual carb set up that no one else has . Keep up the good work can't wait to see what you make next for your bug spencerfvee |
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