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streetwagens Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:09 am Post subject: Re: Vw beetle 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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It looks like the KT number is stamped in the same place as the welded on tag for the VIN number would go. It makes me wonder if they all have KT numbers underneath the VIN tag that's welded on.. Has anyone ever had reason to remove their tag for a look under it? Doubtful I guess! _________________ To catch a fish, you must first think like a fish.... |
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greek_tony Samba Member

Joined: February 12, 2013 Posts: 243 Location: Athens, Greece
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:54 pm Post subject: Re: Vw beetle 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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Yep. It's currently changed hands and parts are being sourced from everywhere in order to get it restored soonish. _________________ 1963 Karmann Ghia - Sold
May 53 Ragtop - Resto started
October 65 Fastback - Almost there. |
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sotos Samba Member

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nikon Samba Member
Joined: February 21, 2017 Posts: 1 Location: Greece
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:02 am Post subject: Re: Vw beetle 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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Hallo all,
I saw your perfect photo shots en red carefully all the comments. The posts created an enthusiasm seeing them an admiring this nice made of Volkswagen 1945-46 chassis/frame number with a body model style 1947-50 with missing the original engine, therefore I would like to inform this forum that I am the owner of this beautiful model and any relevant information needed on this discussion can be available.
grtz
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usariemen Samba Member

Joined: August 28, 2004 Posts: 1745 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:07 pm Post subject: Re: Vw beetle 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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The engine number is not original.
That looks selfmade.
The chassis seems to be an exchage one, swapped out by VW for some reason and got the KT exchange number in front and the original number of the old chassis in the rear.
With better over all pics of the floor it might be possible to put a date on it.
Does the car has the small tank and the metal glove boxes still?
A 1947 body is a rare thing. No matter if the chassis is younger. _________________ Master of my domain! |
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starstam Samba Member
Joined: February 08, 2017 Posts: 8 Location: Greece
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:04 am Post subject: Re: Vw beetle 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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Engine number
gear break
Maybe these help |
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usariemen Samba Member

Joined: August 28, 2004 Posts: 1745 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:07 am Post subject: Re: Vw beetle 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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starstam wrote: |
After a deep cleaning i found that there is a number under the rear seats that fits the number behind the spare wheel. What do we suggest now? That the spare part is something between the hand break and the gear lever? |
Again, post pics.
Of all you have.
Body, chassis, other parts etc.
People here around know the stuff.
They can tell you what it is, when it was made and how well it fits together.
They can tell if a number is the original one or something somebody had punched in later. _________________ Master of my domain! |
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Martin Southwell Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2010 Posts: 1093 Location: Bath, England
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 4:11 pm Post subject: Re: Vw beetle 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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About 10/15 years ago, a 1945 Beetle from Greece came to the UK to be restored, and a friend made the carpets for it. It was all very hush, hush, as the owner was secretive, and whether the same person owns it today I don't know. It certainly existed, as do the photos during its restoration, which show it looking very nice, in a military green colour. The same friend is making a carpet set for my 47, and we wondered if there were any real differences between the two years. I don't think anybody really knows for sure, althouh some might claim to do so. |
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Dimitrios Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 9:25 am Post subject: Re: Vw beetle 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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Looks like an awesome find
Please post some pics if you like!
This is the 3rd pre 1950 vw beetle in Greece as far as I know and possibly the oldest... _________________ Used Porsche 911 & VW 091 & 094 transaxles!!! |
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starstam Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 6:30 am Post subject: Re: Vw beetle 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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After a deep cleaning i found that there is a number under the rear seats that fits the number behind the spare wheel. What do we suggest now? That the spare part is something between the hand break and the gear lever? |
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usariemen Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 6:18 am Post subject: Re: Vw beetle 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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OK
So that means the original chassis was swapped for an other one wich got a new number. the KT one.
Would be interesting to see if the current chassis is of the same age. _________________ Master of my domain! |
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virtanen Samba Member

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starstam Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:46 am Post subject: Re: Vw beetle 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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The number with the TK is stamped on the tunnel between the gear lever and the hand break. Hope this helps. It does not have number under the rear seats. |
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usariemen Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:15 pm Post subject: Re: Vw beetle 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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The rivets on the tag in your front end look unmolested.
So this should be the original one to the car.
The 1-055147 would be then the VIN number of thje car.
That is a number that would be from 1946 if we look at the records.
This tag obviously is stamped in 1947.
Those where unsteady times. You will not find out but it is possible the car got the number in 1946 but was for what ever reasons finished in 1947 and got the tag finally then.
The same number should be found on the tunnel inside the car as well.
Below the tag there should be the body number stamped directly into the metal panel. Is there something?
Where exactely is the -KT .. number located? _________________ Master of my domain! |
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virtanen Samba Member

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starstam Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: Vw beetle 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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No there is no number under the rear seat. I read that so old beetles werent supossed to have such a number. Correct me if my wrong.
I guess i can say its an original 1946 beetle is there anything else i can check??
Guys i realy appreciate all your help till now! |
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady

Joined: March 13, 2004 Posts: 3856 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:21 pm Post subject: Re: Vw beetle 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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starstam wrote: |
These are the 2 numbers described above!
Why are they different?? Do they have to match?? |
No. They don't have to match.
Is there a number under the rear seat on the tunnel? |
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady

Joined: March 13, 2004 Posts: 3856 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:19 pm Post subject: Re: 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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usariemen wrote: |
nlorntson wrote: |
1-055147 would be the body number (May 1949)
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1-055147 sounds more like a VIN or chassis number of 1946.
Doesn´t it?
A body number does not have the 1- in front. |
Yeah, long day. I misspoke in that earlier post |
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starstam Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:21 pm Post subject: Re: Vw beetle 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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These are the 2 numbers described above!
Why are they different?? Do they have to match?? |
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usariemen Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:19 pm Post subject: Re: Vw beetle 1946-1947 with tunnel number like -TK- 005... |
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Any picture posted of the numbers will tell soon what it is and if it is something original. _________________ Master of my domain! |
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