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laneven28 Samba Member

Joined: January 09, 2007 Posts: 316 Location: Cedar Hills, Utah
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:54 am Post subject: Re: '56 Convertible Rescue |
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The project stalled, but I'm about to fire it up again. My good friend Joe McRae at Rustology Garage is going to finish the metalwork. _________________ 1950 Pearl Grey Hoffman Standard Split Window
1954 Iceland Green Euro 3-Fold Oval
1954 Iris Blue Convertible
1955 Strato Silver Transitional 3-Fold Oval
1959 Pearl White Lowlight KG Convertible
1961 Turkis Ragtop |
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type4split Samba Member

Joined: May 23, 2007 Posts: 731 Location: Hamilton, Indiana
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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:06 pm Post subject: Re: '56 Convertible Rescue |
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This project still going on? _________________ '67 deluxe bus w/the little windows
'52 beetle
'55 convertible
'50-something convertible (*need ribbed 'vert quarter panel )
'63 "milo" beetle
Part, parts and more parts |
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theorangeperil Samba Member
Joined: February 14, 2018 Posts: 18 Location: London
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: '56 Convertible Rescue |
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great project. subscribed.  |
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aa390392 Samba Member

Joined: March 28, 2007 Posts: 3601 Location: So.Cal
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:48 am Post subject: Re: '56 Convertible Rescue |
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Thanks for update,
hope your health is well,
Keep plugging away.
Cheers Thomas _________________ .
getting grumpy & less tolerant!
55 ragtop
56 delux sedan
56 Kabriolet |
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laneven28 Samba Member

Joined: January 09, 2007 Posts: 316 Location: Cedar Hills, Utah
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:07 pm Post subject: Re: '56 Convertible Rescue |
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aa390392 wrote: |
Rebooting any progress? Or did you stuff to the ba k of your garage? |
Haha, no it's not stuffed in the back of the garage. Progress continues, but slowly. I ran into some health challenges at the beginning of the year and quit my job as a result so that slowed things down for a while, and my friend got busy with other projects too. I did stop by his place a couple weeks ago and he's been back on it recently.
My apologies up front for the crappy cell phone pics.
I continue to hunt down parts, and scored a couple great finds this past summer - an NOS decklid and set of NOS doors (only 1 is pictured). Not sure I can bring myself to use the NOS decklid - it's just sooooo nice, and I've never seen another. I will use the doors however.
I can't stress how much metal work has been required to bring this car back, even to this point and there's a lot still to be done. Even paying reduced rates to my buddy, the metal surgery alone is going to be north of $10k in the end.
Front End - the front end and replacement clip were both carefully disassembled, and the two will be joined back together using factory seams. A new spare tire well was welded in as were firewall patches, and several internal pieces still need to be repaired including the convertible supports. About 80% done at this point.
Rear End - A lot of time has been spent repairing the problems in the rear clip, and it's about 80% done as well. It took 3 replacement clips to patch together a solid firewall and luggage tray, and the bottom corners had to be put back together as well. The bottom rear quarters are currently being repaired, and once those are done, it will be ready to send to the blaster.
Once both clips are complete, blasted and primed, they will then be fitted and welded to the new Gerson heater channels and pan. It will probably be spring 2019 when that happens. _________________ 1950 Pearl Grey Hoffman Standard Split Window
1954 Iceland Green Euro 3-Fold Oval
1954 Iris Blue Convertible
1955 Strato Silver Transitional 3-Fold Oval
1959 Pearl White Lowlight KG Convertible
1961 Turkis Ragtop |
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aa390392 Samba Member

Joined: March 28, 2007 Posts: 3601 Location: So.Cal
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 12:37 pm Post subject: Re: '56 Convertible Rescue |
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Rebooting any progress? Or did you stuff to the ba k of your garage? _________________ .
getting grumpy & less tolerant!
55 ragtop
56 delux sedan
56 Kabriolet |
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56Cabrio Samba Member

Joined: May 22, 2008 Posts: 2059 Location: San Fernando Valley, CA
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Rich's 50 Samba Member
Joined: February 18, 2004 Posts: 10794 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:00 pm Post subject: Re: '56 Convertible Rescue |
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laneven28 Samba Member

Joined: January 09, 2007 Posts: 316 Location: Cedar Hills, Utah
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:11 pm Post subject: Re: '56 Convertible Rescue |
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Stopped by my welder's place today to see how things are coming along. He's been tied up on another project so not much has happened over the past couple weeks. I let him know I wanted the Z bar added to the channels and new weld nuts. We made a few other decisions on how to proceed, and it sounds like he's about ready to jump back on it. Here's how it looked today.
_________________ 1950 Pearl Grey Hoffman Standard Split Window
1954 Iceland Green Euro 3-Fold Oval
1954 Iris Blue Convertible
1955 Strato Silver Transitional 3-Fold Oval
1959 Pearl White Lowlight KG Convertible
1961 Turkis Ragtop |
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laneven28 Samba Member

Joined: January 09, 2007 Posts: 316 Location: Cedar Hills, Utah
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:50 pm Post subject: Re: '56 Convertible Rescue |
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jason wrote: |
Might be a good idea to open them up and put it in. I had issues with the Gerson nuts. Check them while your in there. They stripped out with less than 10 lbs torque. Must of got them from China. Never responded to my many emails either. Why would he, already had my money. I have to go back and put nutserts in most of the holes or figure something out. I dont want to cut it up again. May be wise to torque a bolt down to spec before installing. |
That sucks man, sorry to hear. Did you figure out a solution? I've heard the weld nuts strip easily on Gerson channels from others as well, so I guess I should have the channels opened up, have the z bar installed, coat the inside, and replace the weld nuts. Sounds like I'd probably be doing repairs later anyhow, so why not do it right up front, right? _________________ 1950 Pearl Grey Hoffman Standard Split Window
1954 Iceland Green Euro 3-Fold Oval
1954 Iris Blue Convertible
1955 Strato Silver Transitional 3-Fold Oval
1959 Pearl White Lowlight KG Convertible
1961 Turkis Ragtop |
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jason Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2002 Posts: 3465 Location: Garage
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 1:49 pm Post subject: Re: '56 Convertible Rescue |
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Might be a good idea to open them up and put it in. I had issues with the Gerson nuts. Check them while your in there. They stripped out with less than 10 lbs torque. Must of got them from China. Never responded to my many emails either. Why would he, already had my money. I have to go back and put nutserts in most of the holes or figure something out. I dont want to cut it up again. May be wise to torque a bolt down to spec before installing. |
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jason Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2002 Posts: 3465 Location: Garage
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 1:38 pm Post subject: Re: '56 Convertible Rescue |
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I believe the z bar is for the heat. Mine doesn't have them. It does have the heater tube welded to the side though. I took my plates off to blast, epoxy, paint while the rails were off. It was only a vew hundred extra spotwelds to remove.
Maybe the earlier channels have the z plate since the heating was different. Anyone have a pic of an early heater channel cut in half?
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Basketcase Samba Member

Joined: August 10, 2011 Posts: 636 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 3:53 pm Post subject: Re: '56 Convertible Rescue |
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awesome project. _________________ '72 Karmann Ghia Coupe (the Boss's) |
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splitjunkie Samba Member

Joined: April 04, 2006 Posts: 4208
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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 1:03 pm Post subject: Re: '56 Convertible Rescue |
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laneven28 wrote: |
Thanks Lars, you clearly went to a lot of work to do your channels right - It's a lot of work that arguably isn't necessary from a functional standpoint (my metal guy doesn't think I should), but I'm leaning that way myself so the construction stays original.
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VW would not have put that Z brace in there if it wasn't needed. Is your metal guy an engineer? I doubt it.
Virtanen is making heater channels now too. I bet he could make you a set with the Z brace already installed. Save the Gerson channels for another project or sell them to recoup some of the cost. _________________ Chris
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jason Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2002 Posts: 3465 Location: Garage
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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 12:35 pm Post subject: Re: '56 Convertible Rescue |
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I will look. I got my rails from J3. He sold his template to Gerson. I thought he was now making them. Mine also comes up in the kick panel area. You can see where it comes in. |
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laneven28 Samba Member

Joined: January 09, 2007 Posts: 316 Location: Cedar Hills, Utah
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Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 11:24 am Post subject: Re: '56 Convertible Rescue |
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Appreciate the comments everyone. Robert's rails are top quality, and really weren't that much more $ even with shipping than the inferior rails on the market. Money well spent in my opinion.
Thanks Lars, you clearly went to a lot of work to do your channels right - It's a lot of work that arguably isn't necessary from a functional standpoint (my metal guy doesn't think I should), but I'm leaning that way myself so the construction stays original.
Jason - Sounds like they changed the position of the wiring and the conduit sometime between the 56 and 57 model year. What month/year was your 57 produced? _________________ 1950 Pearl Grey Hoffman Standard Split Window
1954 Iceland Green Euro 3-Fold Oval
1954 Iris Blue Convertible
1955 Strato Silver Transitional 3-Fold Oval
1959 Pearl White Lowlight KG Convertible
1961 Turkis Ragtop |
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jason Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2002 Posts: 3465 Location: Garage
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Posted: Sat May 27, 2017 9:17 pm Post subject: Re: '56 Convertible Rescue |
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My 57 has the wire inside the vert rail and not the heater channel. It is inside the paper covered aluminum like the carb preheat. |
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lovethatconvertible Samba Member

Joined: August 22, 2008 Posts: 1434 Location: Las Vegas N. V.
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 8:54 pm Post subject: Re: '56 Convertible Rescue |
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^^^^Boy Howdy on that, So cool you got Robert's Reinforcement rails. they are supposed to be pretty damn cool. Keep the updates coming. _________________ 1960 Convertible |
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Skim Rants Master

Joined: April 15, 2001 Posts: 17095 Location: GFK 31 Year Vet
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 2:19 pm Post subject: Re: '56 Convertible Rescue |
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Kick ass. Keep it up!! _________________ GFK
Samba since before the towers collapsed. Still here.
1953 Kabriolet
1954 Sunroof
1959 Lowlight Ghia vert
1960 Lt Grey Double Cab SMZ LEGIT
1963 Deluxe Turkis Walk Thru 15 Window OG Paint |
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Lars B Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2006 Posts: 205 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 11:12 am Post subject: Re: '56 Convertible Rescue |
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I guess you need open the right one to add the tube for the wiring.
I opened up both mine to add the Z Part (and tube)..
http://www.brandow.eu/vw/01/vw01.htm |
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