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BarryL 
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 Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 6:21 pm Post subject: Re: Speaker Bracket Install |
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Came original in this Westy from Tourist Delivery Germany.
Can you post a Bay mount? |
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bastardbus
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 2:04 pm Post subject: Re: Speaker Bracket Install |
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This is the High Fidelity Long-Travel-Cone Heavy Magnet Speaker and Bracket with Mounting Screw.
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That sure looks like a bay window speaker mount. Are you 100% sure that came original to a 67 bus?
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VWLady
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Location: Twin Cities, MN
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| Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:47 pm Post subject: Re: Speaker Bracket Install |
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I can't bring myself to drill a hole in the face of the dash. I think I'll pursue the usual bottom lip mount. That's two holes but both are mostly not visible.
Thank you for the great info! |
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BarryL
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Location: Casa de Oro, California
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| Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 7:02 pm Post subject: Re: Speaker Bracket Install |
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This is the High Fidelity Long-Travel-Cone Heavy Magnet Speaker and Bracket with Mounting Screw.
I added the thicker nylon washer. Original from Westfalia was a whitish thin fiber washer. Also the original dash screw was cadmium plated Pan Slot. |
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| BarryL wrote: |
This is the High Fidelity Long-Travel-Cone Heavy Magnet Speaker and Bracket with Mounting Screw.
I added the thicker nylon washer. Original from Westfalia was a whitish thin fiber washer. Also the original dash screw was cadmium plated Pan Slot. |
Was this offered by Westfalia? Any documentation or other examples? I had the same setup in my 67 SO42 but assumed it was just some PO hack that didn't care about drilling a hole in his dash. The speaker in mine was long gone (replaced by a Kraco) but the bracket remained.
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| Was this offered by Westfalia? Any documentation or other examples? |
Dunno. The Blaupunkt and Emden radios with the piggy-back amplifier were supposed to use the high-watt heavy-magnet long-travel cone speaker or it would blow out the windings of the speaker. I've seen a radio brochure with the speaker and bracket but I have no idea where to find that. |
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srfndoc
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| Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 2:05 pm Post subject: Re: Speaker Bracket Install |
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| BarryL wrote: |
This is the High Fidelity Long-Travel-Cone Heavy Magnet Speaker and Bracket with Mounting Screw.
I added the thicker nylon washer. Original from Westfalia was a whitish thin fiber washer. Also the original dash screw was cadmium plated Pan Slot. |
Was this offered by Westfalia? Any documentation or other examples? I had the same setup in my 67 SO42 but assumed it was just some PO hack that didn't care about drilling a hole in his dash. The speaker in mine was long gone (replaced by a Kraco) but the bracket remained.
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BulliBill
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| Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 12:41 pm Post subject: Re: Speaker Bracket Install |
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Crap BarryL! We see something and learn something new every day here on theSamba.com Thanks for showing us that! I've never seen that attachment before...
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BarryL
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Location: Casa de Oro, California
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| Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 12:05 pm Post subject: Re: Speaker Bracket Install |
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This is the High Fidelity Long-Travel-Cone Heavy Magnet Speaker and Bracket with Mounting Screw.
I added the thicker nylon washer. Original from Westfalia was a whitish thin fiber washer. Also the original dash screw was cadmium plated Pan Slot. |
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BulliBill
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| Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:27 am Post subject: Re: Speaker Bracket Install |
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I'm working on a January 1967 deluxe. I've mounted radios in a couple of other 60's buses and both had the two holes to mount the speaker bracket.
This 1967 does not have any holes. It has a single hole near where the two smaller holes should be that looks remarkably like the hole used to mount the dome light switch on the speedometer pod. Actually there is another of these "dome light shaped" holes on the lip below the wiper switch as well.
before I go drilling holes in the lip of my dash to mount the speaker bracket I thought I'd ask if any other 1967 owners have the proper mounting holes in the lip of their dashes.
This has the bigger radio opening too so It also makes me wonder if there is something special about the radio size and speaker placement I need to consider. |
Nancy, my Jan of 1967 Camper had the two small holes as seen in previous photos above for attaching the bottom edge of the stock speaker bracket from the factory. The bracket with an attached stock-ish speaker fit up in there and attached with the original screws fairly easily. By the way, while the radio and speaker is out is a great time to glue in a dense cloth speaker cloth behind the grill surface and then install the radio and speaker, now well hidden... https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1768451
Happy Holidays everyone!
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EasyNow
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Location: SoCal
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| Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 9:54 pm Post subject: Re: Speaker Bracket Install |
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| Just did mine this week, but with the original stock speaker bracket. Put a screw upwards on each end of the bracket that rests on the shelf above the tray. Then glued small flat magnets (2mm) to the top portion of the speaker bracket to adhere to the underside of the dash. Seems to be solid as a rock. |
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VWLady
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| Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 8:04 pm Post subject: Re: Speaker Bracket Install |
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If you have the deluxe cone speaker it has two rubber bumpers on the bottom that rest on the shelf and the top screw holds it. |
Thank you for the response BarryL
Hmmm. I'm using the Wolfsburg West bracket and speaker. I could put small bumper in the two offset bottom holes but there is no provision for a screw at the top that I can see. There's just a flat flange that rests against the underside of the top of the dash.
Any suggestions on how to mount this speaker are welcome |
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BarryL
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| Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 7:08 pm Post subject: Re: Speaker Bracket Install |
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On my June 19th '67 Westy it has both those holes.
The left one is for the defrost option and the right one is for the fader.
If you have the deluxe cone speaker it has two rubber bumpers on the bottom that rest on the shelf and the top screw holds it. |
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VWLady
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| Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:47 pm Post subject: Re: Speaker Bracket Install |
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I'm working on a January 1967 deluxe. I've mounted radios in a couple of other 60's buses and both had the two holes to mount the speaker bracket.
This 1967 does not have any holes. It has a single hole near where the two smaller holes should be that looks remarkably like the hole used to mount the dome light switch on the speedometer pod. Actually there is another of these "dome light shaped" holes on the lip below the wiper switch as well.
before I go drilling holes in the lip of my dash to mount the speaker bracket I thought I'd ask if any other 1967 owners have the proper mounting holes in the lip of their dashes.
This has the bigger radio opening too so It also makes me wonder if there is something special about the radio size and speaker placement I need to consider. |
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oldbusboy
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| Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 4:14 pm Post subject: Re: Speaker Bracket Install |
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Finally figured it out.
I split the two parts (the speaker mount and giant speaker) and slid them in separately. Since the screws you get with the WW kit are tiny and impossible to get threaded from behind the dash I drilled out the speaker mount holes slightly larger. Then I found some small bolts, nuts and washers.
Once everything was behind the dash I slid the two parts over to the radio opening and inserted the nuts and bolts. Tightened everything down, slid it back into place and screwed in the speaker mount into the lower dash lip.
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oldbusboy
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| Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 11:16 am Post subject: Re: Speaker Bracket Install |
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Got the speaker and mount in!
Lowered the tray and kept twisting the speaker bracket until the right spot was found. I was just about to remove the wiper arm which would have been a pain to put back on. The bottom line is it's in and works. THANKS TO ALL for assistance.  |
Did you have the speaker mounted on bracket as well? I'm having a difficult time getting the bracket into my '67. Same issues, just doesn't appear to be enough room?
I have the WW repop.
EDIT: after taking radio out and loosening the wiper arm on pass side I managed to slide it in from where the radio would be then across to where it sits... As soon as I added the giant WW speaker I could no longer get the speaker and mount in. Even with the radio, ashtray and wiper motor out.
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zozo
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| Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:14 pm Post subject: Re: Speaker Bracket Install |
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| Sorry I missed your reply to my offer. Glad you got it in. |
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74 Cosa
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| Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 10:50 am Post subject: Re: Speaker Bracket Install |
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Got the speaker and mount in!
Lowered the tray and kept twisting the speaker bracket until the right spot was found. I was just about to remove the wiper arm which would have been a pain to put back on. The bottom line is it's in and works. THANKS TO ALL for assistance. |
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EverettB
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OB Bus
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| Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:30 pm Post subject: Re: Speaker Bracket Install |
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I put the speaker bracket in our '67 by dropping the tray. I did not have to remove the wiper motto or arms.
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VWLady
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| Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:53 pm Post subject: Re: Speaker Bracket Install |
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I had to pull out the wiper motor in our 66 to get the bracket in.
I pulled the arms off
Removed the skinny nuts from the wiper shafts
pulled the shafts back through the grommets
Slid the motor off to the left.
It's a hassle but it also helps to loosen the package try down on the right side. |
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74 Cosa
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| Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:17 pm Post subject: Re: Speaker Bracket Install |
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| If you can please. |
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