New to me 72 Super

[Bobs67vwagen]

Good job on that and probably better for and quality than any replacement available today.

[Buggeee]

Nice!
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Release the Krankenwagen! 1966 Sportsmobile Camper
Dr. Kompressor 72 Super Duper
61 Turkis Pile (adopted out)

[PiperFixer]

Read a lot about heater box repair vs replacement. Decided on repair as under the rust mine are actually in decent condition.

Looked like this on removal.

Scraped. Degreased. Metal brushed. Bead blasted. Ospho'd and high temp painted.

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Orange 72 Super
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[Cusser]

[PiperFixer]

[Cusser]

Sounds like it's going well, great !
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[PiperFixer]

Everything in place.

And closed. Sealed with Curil T. Nuts sealed with Permatex Aviation. Crank moving freely after all torques applied.

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Orange 72 Super
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[PiperFixer]

Crank gears installed. Toaster oven at 350 for 35 minutes and they slid right on.

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Orange 72 Super
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[PiperFixer]

Since the engine is out, I'm replacing the tar boards and engine bay seals. Chipping away at the death foam etc. Found an ancient colony of mud daubers.

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Orange 72 Super
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[PiperFixer]

[viiking]

There are reasons for specifications. If the crank is out even on one journal then replace it or get it machined. It won’t miraculously improve. Bearing clearance will be increased, lower oil pressure etc.
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Discharged: 1983 Vanagon, 1974 1800 Microbus,1968 Low Light,1968 Type 3

[PiperFixer]

[Rob Combs]

Somehow this entire thread has eluded me until today. Nice car! I had a 73 Super the same color. Still miss that car.

As to your questions about the air cleaner, yes, the factory will provide far better driveability than the chrome replacements. The big thing the chrome filters don't help with is carb heat. And carb heat is needed, even in warmer areas like yours. Going back to the stock* air cleaner, in addition to replacing the thermostat and flaps that had been stripped out, made massive improvements in driveability on mine, with an aftermarket carb. (*Mostly stock air cleaner - I gutted the oil bath part to put in a modern cone filter, but it's a Ghia so a little different than yours).

While you have it all apart be sure to clean out the tube throught the intake manifold that runs between the heat risers on the exhaust. They get carboned up really bad under the carb because whatever particles are in the exhaust recondense under the cold carb and plug the tube.

Questions about the carb itself - some will tell you that carb will never run right, others will tell you it will be fine. It varies, so don't necessarily throw it out just yet. The thermostat, intake manifold tube, and air cleaner situation can cause just as many if not more driveability issues as the carb itself.

Your engine looks a little sludgy - hopefully the black lines in your main bearing saddles are just part of the sludge buildup and not evidence of the mains being pounded into the bearing saddles. Clean it up really good and let us know if you want any pointers to inspect for bearing saddle pounding.

You also have a golden opportunity to really put it back together precisely, and in doing so can enhance performance quite a surprising amount. Do they do smog testing in your zip code, and if so is your car exempt?

Now I'm off to split my case this morning, in one of those grey service carts just as you've done.

Best of luck to you.

[PiperFixer]

Progress...No horrible cracks immediately obvious. Crank looks ok aside from staining, will measure for wear. No spun bearings or any mystery metal in the sump.

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Orange 72 Super
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[PiperFixer]

Got this old style pressure plate. It's got a pretty bad groove worn in from the clutch disc rivets so will replaced with an updated plate. Was hoping I wouldn't have to oh well.

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Orange 72 Super
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[PiperFixer]

Almost two years in and I decided it's finally time. Running on 3 cylinders and oil leaking from basically everywhere. Got new 88 thick walled cylinders and new machined CB heads for a mild upgrade. I'll be happy if I can reuse the crank. Everything else internal I expect to replace.

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Orange 72 Super
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[PiperFixer]

New shift coupler. Old one was pretty worn out.

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Orange 72 Super
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[PiperFixer]

Thanks. I pulled that photo at random off the web. I'll have to get a shot of my actual air cleaner but I'm sure the top is sealed off where the two hoses are attached in your photo. Are the small round air cleaners that bad??
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Orange 72 Super
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[kpf]

That oil-bath air cleaner is not from a '72. The little bracket sticking up to hold the end of a cable to operate the pre-heat valve marks it as a ~1968 (someone correct me). That might be why it won't fit on a 34-pict. I think the 34 came along in 70 or 71 (?).

I believe the '72 air cleaner has a vacuum operated thermostat to operate the pre-heat valve. It has distinctive double vacuum hoses on top, like this:

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1971 Super Beetle

[agramer1966]

Great bug, nice to see one in this condition. I plan to have mine done in this color. 👍
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